The menus are correct. It is the symbol in pdf outputs that are located in the opposite quadrant to what they should be. Bruce From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion Sent: Monday, 19 June 2017 9:36 PM To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Therion] align is back to front It looks logic is mirrored in contextual menu, the object is aligned from the coordinates to right and down, instead the coordinates are of bottom-right corner of symbol envelope. 5.3.16 Mac: 19. 6. 2017 v 11:13, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk <mailto:therion@speleo.sk> >: Has anyone noticed that -align seems to be aligning symbols the wrong way? I have not comprehensively checked, but I think labels are OK. But water-flow is aligning opposite to what it should. In the image below, the water-flow symbol is aligned bottom-right according to the context menu and the options text. But you can see that the pdf symbol is aligned top-left. Am using 5.4.1 + 88c8a06 It might have been this way for a while. <image002.jpg> _______________________________________________ Therion mailing list <mailto:Therion@speleo.sk> Therion@speleo.sk <https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion