Hi all I'm very confused over the heirarcchy of stations in therion and survex when used together. Two email threads have been very useful but Im still confused. Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 From: Andrew Atkinson Subject: [Therion] Nesting surveys Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 From: Wookey Subject: [Therion] Dataset structure including survex files Nevertheless even with the help of the above emails I'm still lost. The wiki docs and the thbookdocs cover mostly using survey data in therion format but I'll be wishing to use 3d files from the top level. From what I understand of the above email threads that seems the best way to go for a new project where others will be using survex but not therion. I have got a therion dataset working and it's attached as a tarball. But I seem to have to add empty survey containers in like this into cave.th survey rect -title "The rectangle cave" endsurvey survey extra -title "The extra bit" endsurvey Also how does one get the full pathname of stations displayed on the PDF ie like rect.1, rect.2 instead of just 1,2 etc Also how can one get all the stations labelled on the PDF without having to assign a point to them manually in therion map editor? Can one get lines betwwen the stations instead of just the "little flying bat" symbols? i.e. a centerline line. Finally whats the suggestions for the best structure/layout to sue for using just 3d files for the data. You see I was thinking of putting survex data into surveys/ and therion scraps into maps/ Mike Mike Lake