2.10 2.11 49.30 -14.96 3.575 > 2.11 2.10 0.00 0.00 0.000 > This looks like an error in the PocketTopo Therion export. I will look at that. Beat From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of John Stevens Sent: Thursday, 29 August, 2013 13:13 To: List for Therion users Subject: [Therion] Export Full Backbearings from PocketTopo to Therion Export oddities from PocketTopo to Therion A while back, I noted that if you do a full back bearing of three readings straight after you have done to forward leg, PocketTopo recognises this as the same leg and numbers it accordingly. I have not found any documentation about this useful feature though. 2.10 1.139 64.25 -33.70 [1] 2.10 1.288 53.85 -61.89 [1] 2.10 2.243 304.70 -50.40 [1] "fissure in floor with sound of water flowing " 2.10 2.11 3.574 49.25 -15.19 [1] 2.10 2.11 3.574 49.06 -15.19 [1] 2.10 2.11 3.577 49.27 -15.23 [1] 2.11 2.10 3.576 229.26 14.68 [1] 2.11 2.10 3.575 229.37 14.68 [1] 2.11 2.10 3.577 229.60 14.80 [1] 2.11 0.599 96.53 74.98 [1] 2.11 0.201 156.69 -50.20 [1] If the back bearing was outside the automatic parameters, then it can always be forced and sorted later. i.e. make a note, station may be too close to iron work or buried iron in spoil/deads. PocketTopo and TopParser deal with these in different ways when it is imported into Therion PocketTopo averages all 6 readings for the output file but it also adds a blank line 2.10 64.25 -33.68 1.140 > 2.10 53.85 -61.89 1.288 > 2.10 304.69 -50.39 2.243 > 2.10 2.11 49.30 -14.96 3.575 > 2.11 2.10 0.00 0.00 0.000 > 2.11 96.67 75.01 0.599 > 2.11 156.63 -50.15 0.201 > This second line then has to be commented out or deleted once in Therion. Other than that all other outputs act as expected. TopParser on the other hand outputs both sets of readings as separate legs. This has an advantage but a couple of disadvantages. 2.10 - 1.139 64.25 -33.7 2.10 - 1.288 53.85 -61.89 2.10 - 2.243 304.7 -50.4 fissure in floor with sound of water flowing #2.10 2.11 3.574 49.25 -15.19 #2.10 2.11 3.574 49.06 -15.19 #2.10 2.11 3.577 49.27 -15.23 2.10 2.11 3.575 49.15 -15.2 Calculated leg from 3 above #2.11 2.10 3.576 229.26 14.68 #2.11 2.10 3.575 229.37 14.68 #2.11 2.10 3.577 229.6 14.8 2.11 2.10 3.576 229.31 14.72 Calculated leg from 3 above 2.11 - 0.599 96.53 74.98 2.11 - 0.201 156.69 -50.2 If I use this output, the length of the cave is doubled for the leg but I do get some nice 2 leg loop closure errors. The distance can be adjusted but adding flags duplicate and flags not duplicate lines around the duplicate leg. These loop closures then give me good feed back into where magnetic influences are within the cave/mine. 5.70% 0.4m 7.7m 2 -0.2m 0.4m -0.0m [2.7 - 2.8 - 2.7] 3.86% 0.2m 5.1m 2 -0.1m -0.2m -0.0m [2.8 - 2.9 - 2.8] 2.70% 0.2m 8.7m 2 -0.2m 0.2m -0.0m [2.11 - 2.12 - 2.11] 1.18% 0.1m 11.0m 2 -0.1m -0.1m 0.0m [2.9 - 2.10 - 2.9] 0.50% 0.0m 3.9m 2 -0.0m -0.0m 0.0m [2.12 - 2.2 - 2.12] 0.44% 0.0m 7.2m 2 -0.0m 0.0m -0.0m [2.10 - 2.11 - 2.10] 0.33% 0.0m 10.8m 2 0.0m 0.0m -0.0m [2.2 - 2.7 - 2.2]
From these it is easy to see which passage had a large iron pipe running down it, even those we kept a good distance from it. This now allows me to set that passage survey grade as lower for the loop closures.
But with all these subloops, Therion does not like calculating the main loop error. The other main problem with the TopParser output is for the extended section. Here it plots both legs so the centreline and splays are in the wrong place for the drawings. So that output is totally useless and I have to go back and use the PocketTopo output for extended sections. So bit more work on TopParser and PocketTopo to make them both fully implement this useful function.