For JMBegley who very kindly maintains Fedora packages for both Therion and Survex ... When I start the dnf process to upgrade from Fedora 29 to Fedora 30, I get errors related to both Therion and Survex. The messages are: Problem 1: package survex-1.2.38-1.fc29.i686 requires libproj.so.12, but none of the providers can be installed - proj-4.9.3-6.fc29.i686 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package survex-1.2.38-1.fc29.i686 Problem 8: package libgeotiff-1.4.3-3.fc30.i686 requires libproj.so.13, but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both proj-5.2.0-2.fc30.i686 and proj-4.9.3-6.fc29.i686 - cannot install both proj-5.2.0-1.fc30.i686 and proj-4.9.3-6.fc29.i686 - problem with installed package libgeotiff-1.4.0-14.fc29.i686 - package therion-5.4.3-1.fc29.i686 requires libproj.so.12, but none of the providers can be installed - libgeotiff-1.4.0-14.fc29.i686 does not belong to a distupgrade repository - problem with installed package therion-5.4.3-1.fc29.i686 There are other problem packages, but these two at least can be addressed through this list. -- Bill Gee