Guess you all can tell I am trying to get a survey complete by the number of emails I am sending For anyone who is interested in what I am doing, the pdf if available at http://wotcc.org.uk/__Transfer/Reads.pdf and the raw data at http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Burrington/Reads/ I am using the legend command to put text in different places and other pdfs to make up a complex final poster. Some thoughts/observations When using the normal map header 0 0 nw legend on/off works and turns the list of symbols on and off colour-legend thbook says colo[u]r-legend <on/off> ◃ turn on/off legend of map-fg colours when map-fg is set to altitude, scrap or map (M, A) but the map colours seem to remain in the legend? As soon as you use code tex-map \def\maplayout{ \legendbox{ } map-header and map-image get ignored, which is a bit of a pain, as everything has to then go through the \legendbox. My guess is there is a reason for this, but it would be better if the 2 map commands could still be used. I cannot find a way to insert the list of symbols \legendbox{110}{-200}{NW}{\the\legendcontent} Put the legend on with the scale bar, north arrow ..... map colours, but no list of symbols using legend on/all/off seems to make no difference. This is the one I could really do with a solution to, as I would like to have the list of symbols As \formattedlegend adds in the map colours, my feeling is that \insertlegend should put it in but have not got anywhere with \legendbox{150}{-230}{NW}{\iflegend\the\insertlegend\fi} \legendbox{150}{-230}{NW}{\iflegend\insertlegend\fi} \legendbox{150}{-230}{NW}{\insertlegend\} \legendbox{150}{-230}{NW}{\the\insertlegend} thanks in advance Andrew