I've packaged the current unstable release 5.3.5 for Debian testing (squeeze). Do please try it out and tell me how it works for you - especially if you have an intel graphics card and had problems with Loch crashing in the past. In 5.3.3 textures were disabled in order to have loch run on intel cards, but at least on this machine I have access to, this problem seems to have gone away so I have re-enabled it. Hopefully it was a VT/mesa bug. But I'd like to know how it works for other people. And do of course whinge if you see other issues such as documentation bugs. There does seem to be a problem with Loch and xtherion not appearing on menus, at least with XFCE, which I need to investigate. (desktopand application files are present) The packages are here for the time being: http://wookware.org/software/therion/ Once feedback is satisfactory these will be uploaded to Debian experimental and my Ubuntu PPA. Martin/Stacho - the new v3.0 source format (quilt patches) makes it a lot easier to see what's been changed. Do please peruse the patches as several of them could usefully go upstream. 10changelog.patch 30doc-fixes.patch 35loch-manpage.patch 40samples-fixes.patch 82-nolang-segfault-fix.patch Note that I have nobbled a lot of "warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’" by using -Wno-write-strings but these should probably be fixed properly. There are also a few build warnings remaining: ++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thimport.o thimport.cxx thimport.cxx: In member function ‘void thimport::import_file_img()’: thimport.cxx:440: warning: ‘tmpshot.thimg_shot::fz’ may be used uninitialized in this function thimport.cxx:440: warning: ‘tmpshot.thimg_shot::fy’ may be used uninitialized in this function thimport.cxx:440: warning: ‘tmpshot.thimg_shot::fx’ may be used uninitialized in this function ++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thepsparse.o thepsparse.cxx thepsparse.cxx: In function ‘void parse_eps(std::string, std::string, double, double, double&, double&, double&, double&, converted_data&, double, double, double)’: thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[5]’ may be used uninitialized in this function thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[4]’ may be used uninitialized in this function thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[3]’ may be used uninitialized in this function thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[2]’ may be used uninitialized in this function thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[1]’ may be used uninitialized in this function thepsparse.cxx:527: warning: ‘fntmatr.MP_transform::transf[0]’ may be used uninitialized in this function ++ -c -Wall -DTHLINUX -O2 -o thattr.o thattr.cxx thattr.cxx: In member function ‘void thattr::export_html(const char*, int)’: thattr.cxx:732: warning: format ‘%u’ expects type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 3 has type ‘size_t’ Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/