Thanks Stacho 5.3.11 is promising to be a very good Christmas present indeed. I have run a few projects and it seems to be just fine for the most part. I have yet to check some of the bug fixes I have been eagerly awaiting. I notice the Therion Book does not yet have the instructions updated for all of the new/changed features, so I'm hoping the 'changes list' will be sufficient to get me going. I have managed to trip it in a few places. export continuation-list -attributes on -filter off . I think the 'filter off' is part of the problem, probably too ambitious on my part. And Not sure why this one is. I will explore when I get off Christmas relaxation duties. The kml lists are not all bad news though. Some of them work just fine. Again, thanks Stacho. Bruce
