Hi, I've been having some problems getting grid labels to appear how I want around my survey. I've put some examples on my ftp site so you can see what I mean. The files mentioned below can all be found: ftp://ftp.gns.cri.nz/incoming/JennyB/therion/ . To add a grid and some coordinate labels, I added: grid bottom grid-coords border to my thconfig file. The grid itself is plotted as I expect, but the coordinates are not quite how I would like them. I've played around a bit and there appear to be two problems (neither of which I know how to fix!): 1. the coordinates don't exactly appear on the border - they seem to be plotted on the crosshair point that is closest to, but outside of, the survey. The pdf output isn't extended to included these. Sometimes this is OK, because the legend is outside of the survey area so these numbers are visible (2004-01-plan.pdf). Other times, the numbers are either not visible at all, or clipped (e.g. 2004-01-plan-original.pdf - the number on the East and West axes are clipped, those on the North axis are completely off the page, and those on the South axis are sufficiently far from the survey they interfere with the legend). Whilst I can work around this by use of grid-size and with placing objects like the legend in suitable places (e.g. 2004-01-plan.pdf), this isn't going to look as nice, especially for: 107-plan.pdf, where you currently don't see numbers on any axis except the west, and then only the final two digits. - Is there a way to extend the output page to include these coordinates so that they aren't clipped (as happens automatically for the map and legend)? - Is it possible to plot the numbers on the edge of the survey rather than the nearest crosshair point? - can I specify which axes they appear on (e.g. I'd like to see them on the South and West, but not North and East) 2. The coordinates are plotted in the form: (x,y) along each axis, I'd like to only show the x coordinates on the x axis, and the y coordinates on the y axis (with no brackets or comma). Is this customisable in the thconfig file? I can't see anything in the thbook or mailing lists about how to solve these problems, but I'm sure other people have had them too, and I'm missing something, I just don't know what! I get the same output on windows 7 with therion 5.3.15 and linux with therion 5.3.16. I hope that I have explained this clearly enough, but please let me know if not. Thanks, Jenny