<html aria-label="message body"><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks Bruce for this summary and your kind words. Therion Studio, being less than two months old, still needs some refinement.<div><br></div><div>Just few comments:</div><div><br></div><div>**Speed**</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;">Speed optimization, particularly on the Windows platform, was a primary focus of versions 2026.6.9 and 2026.7.1. I believe the performance has significantly improved since then. Additionally, automatic project validation was a minor bottleneck that affected overall performance. While it has been improved, it is now disabled by default (but can be enabled in preferences). I’m still working on it. Meanwhile manual validation can be triggered from the Validation sidebar. </p></div><div><br></div><div>**Can use multiple instances to work on same or multiple projects and multiple applications (eg text editors) simultaneously.**</div><div><br></div><div>Therion Studio supports multiple windows. Each window has one active project, so opening another window (File -> New Window) allows working with another project in parallel. New windows start empty and do not clone the current project/session.</div><div><br></div><div>**Can be used as a compendium single instance editor (th, th2, compiler).**</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;">That’s the objective. Nowadays, there’s also a built-in .lox and .sql viewer.</p></div><div><br></div><div>**Most objects can be created efficiently with minimum clicks and maximum typing.**</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0px; font-width: normal; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;">Switching between Raw and Visual modes is just one click, and object selection seamlessly follows. You can also detach the Map editor into a separate window and use Raw and Visual in split screen or a multi-monitor setup. Edits sync in real-time in both directions, providing maximum flexibility.</p></div><div><br></div><div>Ladislav<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 3. 7. 2026, at 10:39, bruce@tomo.co.nz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Mōrena (Good Morning)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Yes, two new children on the street!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Mapiah and Therion Studio are looking like viable alternatives to XTherion.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>My journey…<o:p></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0mm; margin-top: 0mm;"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Nineteen years learning to love XTherion<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Six months occasionally playing with Mapiah<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Three weeks dabbling with Therion Studio<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>I haven’t seriously tried to learn the latter two, just kept banging my head against them to see what it feels like. Both could do with searchable help files.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Where I’ve ended up.<o:p></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0mm; margin-top: 0mm;"><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Using my favourite text editor to have all the Therion files I might need ready to edit or launch in an app (a 17 year habit)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Mapiah is my compiler every time – faster and cleaner than XTherion<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>XTherion is my drawing editor – familiar, object parameters are efficiently typed in<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Mapiah is my drawing editor if I want to move, stretch rotate a bunch of objects or background image, then I save and head back to XTherion<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0mm 0mm 0mm -18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Studio is what I look at in awe – but apart from the obvious, have not figured it out yet<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Below is a gut feel comparison, based on dabbling only, and without bothering to read all the instructions and learn the capabilities. Using Windows 11…<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><table class="MsoTableGrid" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: medium;"><tbody><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border: 1pt solid windowtext; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Characteristic<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">XTherion<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Mapiah<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: 1pt 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: solid solid solid none; border-color: windowtext windowtext windowtext currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Therion Studio<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Development repo<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="https://github.com/therion/therion" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">therion/therion: therion – cave surveying software</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="https://github.com/rsevero/mapiah" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/rsevero/mapiah</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><a href="https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio</a></span><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Speed<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Slow to load and redraw th2 files<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Long delay before compile on some devices<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Very fast th2 rendering and fast compilation.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Mapiah’s strength<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Slow to load the App, fast th2 rendering and compilation<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Version control friendly (does not rewrite th or th2 file structure if was edited by another App)<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Mostly compliant if edited with other apps<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes, minor exceptions<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes, as far as I’ve tested<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Drawing interface<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Not consistent with modern capabilities and norms (cannot move or transform whole objects, must be moved point by point).<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Modern capabilities (move and transform whole objects and collections of objects).<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Mapiah’s strength<o:p></o:p></span></b></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">but<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Bewildering array of line object editing capabilities<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">An improvement on traditional XTherion capabilities.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yet to explore the capabilities in this respect<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">It might well be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Studio’s strength</b><o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Freehand line drawing<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Facilitates everything Therion can do, and supports legacy workflows such as interactive manual survey data entry.<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No, or at least not yet<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Unsure, although it expands on XTherion’s functionality in many areas<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Can use multiple instances to work on same or multiple projects and multiple applications (eg text editors) simultaneously.<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Initial experiments suggest multiple instances OK, but only one project at a time<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Can be used as a compendium single instance editor (th, th2, compiler).<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes, except for general text (th) files<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes, and seems not to like NOT being used this way.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Includes error detection & correction, live access to object parameter help.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Studio’s strength<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Most objects can be created efficiently with minimum clicks and maximum typing.<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>XTherion’s strength</b><o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No, very very clicky<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Haven’t used enough to know.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Not yet figured out how to draw within the bounds of a scrap object, for example<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Object visualisation<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">only as points, lines and (if you hold your tongue right) areas<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Better symbolisation<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Astounding th2 visualisation.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">All Therion conceptual objects can be viewed (and edited) as symbolic blocks.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Studio’s strength<o:p></o:p></span></b></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Live update if another App changes open file on disk<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Yes<o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr><tr><td width="217" valign="top" style="width: 162.8pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt; border-style: none solid solid; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext; border-image: none; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Development pace<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="170" valign="top" style="width: 127.55pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Steady consistent improvement over 30 years<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="189" valign="top" style="width: 50mm; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Recent rapid development until 2 months ago<o:p></o:p></span></div></td><td width="176" valign="top" style="width: 131.95pt; border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: currentcolor windowtext windowtext currentcolor; padding: 0mm 5.4pt;"><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Recent rapid development<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></div></td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>So there it is. Tell me what I’ve missed and where I’m wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>I’m pretty excited about both Mapiah and Studio.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Thanks Rodrigo and Ladislav, your efforts are much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span>Bruce Mutton<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">ladislav@lblazek.cz</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, 1 July 2026 21:34<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Therion List <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Therion] Therion Studio 2026.6.9<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">New version of Therion Studio (<a href="https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio</a>) is out, with lot of quality-of-life improvements, bugfixes and performance improvements. See <a href="https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio/releases/tag/v2026.6.9" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/ladislavb/therion-studio/releases/tag/v2026.6.9</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;">I would like to thank all the testers who tested the app, reported issues and suggested improvements. Especially Martin Sluka, Bruce Mutton, Axel Hack and Alex (apgeo) and Therion devs (Stacho, Martin).<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-width: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;">I recently noticed that the Mapiah project (<a href="https://github.com/rsevero/mapiah" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline;">https://github.com/rsevero/mapiah</a>) is attempting to address the same issue: creating a modern replacement for Xtherion. Unfortunately, I encountered difficulties in running the project on my Mac or even building it from an Xcode project. Despite these challenges, But I’ve heard good things about Mapiah and it seems to be quite mature. Therefore, my objective is to maintain maximum interoperability between Xtherion, Mapiah, and Therion Studio, enabling seamless transitions between these tools. I’m genuinely curious to know the differences between Mapiah and Therion Studio. Has anyone use both?<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-width: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-width: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing: auto; font-variation-settings: normal;">L.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0mm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Therion mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" style="color: rgb(70, 120, 134); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>