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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Kia ora Alastair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have not looked at the specifics that you provided, but off the top of my head…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>When I was new to Therion, over a decade ago, I expected ‘grid-coords border’ to put coordinates on the outermost visible grid intersections around the perimeter of an exported pdf. After some inquiry and experimentation I came up with this understanding – it is not typically practicable to achieve this, but with some compromise it is sometimes possible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Therion generates a grid around the cave passage exported, in your example below, at 250 m intervals in each cardinal direction. Since the ‘bordering’ grid line will be 250 m (at scale) outside of any cave passage it is unlikely it will make it onto the exported pdf, since the displayed map extent around the outside of the cave is only a few tens of millimetres.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have only ever achieved it by having a small grid spacing, and a suitably large ‘overlap’ (assuming you are exporting maps rather than atlas’) specified. Try specifying grid at 10 m and overlap at say 30 cm to verify this concept.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It gets even more frustrating if the output is rotated (say using ‘rotate 70’), since your exported pdf will have bordering coordinates only where the edge of the grid is visible.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If someone has a solution or can come up with a means of labelling specific grid intersections, I would be appreciative!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ngā mihi nui<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>A Gott<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 13 April 2024 22:40<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Subject:</b> [Therion] Geographical Coordinates on grid<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>HI Therion users,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am really struggling to get coordinates to show on the edges of the Plan pdf when generated. There <i>has</i> to be something I'm missing! Does anyone have any examples where they have implemented coordinates on the border of the PDF so I can take a look?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The two models I have tried this on are the Peak speedwell model in Castleton, Derbyshire, UK and also the Agua/Naciemiento Model in Tresviso, Cantabria/Asturias, Spain<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I really would like to see it on the Peak speedwell model and now realise we tried it on the Agua model but decided against it due to deadlines. We set a deadline for this one, but including the coordinates are a must!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peak speedwell - <a href="https://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/PeakDistrict/Castleton/castleton_model_thconfig">cave-registry.org.uk/svn/PeakDistrict/Castleton/castleton_model_thconfig</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The things I've tried to include in the above which I hoped would help the <span style='color:black'>coordinates to generate, at one point I did get the coordinates to generate only on the west side of the pdf, but now it's failing to show anywhere:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><pre style='text-align:center;overflow-wrap: break-word;text-wrap: wrap'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>page-setup 118.9 84.1 114.9 80.1 1.5 1.5 cm</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> overlap 3 cm</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> #size 110 75 cm</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> size 105 75 cm</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><div><pre style='text-align:center;overflow-wrap: break-word;text-wrap: wrap'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>grid bottom</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>grid-coords border</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>grid-size 250 250 250 m</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>cs OSGB:SK</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>grid-origin 14865.01 82575.16 193.75 m</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='overflow-wrap: break-word;text-wrap: wrap'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I also tried implementing the full grid, in the hope that this would help, but also didn't.</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='text-align:center;overflow-wrap: break-word;text-wrap: wrap'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> layout custom_grid</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>##change default </span><span style='color:black'>cross hair</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> grid to grid</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> code metapost</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> def s_hgrid (expr xpos, ypos, xsize, ysize) =</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> pickup PenD;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> if ( xpos >= -xsize ) and ( ypos >= -ysize ):</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> draw ( -xsize/2, 0) -- ( xsize/2, 0);</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> draw ( 0, -ysize/2) -- ( 0, ysize/2);</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'>fi<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'> enddef</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'>endcode<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'>endlayout<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></pre></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Fo</span>r Ref, the Tresviso model, but we wiped any reference to including a grid on this one. <a href="https://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Andara/Tresviso/Nacimiento/therion/Nacimiento2020/Nacimiento2020_master.thconfig">cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Andara/Tresviso/Nacimiento/therion/Nacimiento2020/Nacimiento2020_master.thconfig</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alastair Gott.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>