<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Beni<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">that is not a problem of „spikes“ but as you may see on attached picture I had the same problem with one my project.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There were two scraps covered part the same area overlapped. Surveyed in two different surveying trips by two different groups drawn by two different people. As a result that overlapped area created something as infinite vertical chimney.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I had to comment one scrap in time from that part of cave and checked the result. Than I shorted one of those particular scraps and added correct join.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">HTH</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img height="542" width="417" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" apple-inline="yes" id="B904C649-3E5D-4311-9431-B45D7FB96EC9" src="cid:F16BB8B7-9B63-4648-A365-727EB6DC9C93" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">2. 2. 2021 v 9:48, Benedikt Hallinger <<a href="mailto:beni@hallinger.org" class="">beni@hallinger.org</a>>:<br class=""><br class="">Hm, that didn't help, unfortunately.<br class="">in the meantime I also tried coloring the PDF by altitude, this is not affected and working like expected.<br class=""><br class="">Martin has readonly svn access to the data and may investigate in the dataset?<br class="">I just unlocked it for that purpose.<br class=""><br class="">The affected thconfig is svn/Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/therion/thconfig<br class="">and the scrap in question is in svn/Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/1/therion/1.1.plan-2-b.th2<br class="">The last known station is 1.2.26j<br class=""><br class="">In the thconfig I noted the following (just local here)<br class=""><br class=""># Hirlatzdaten importieren<br class="">source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/therion/<a href="http://hirlatzhoehle.th" class="">Hirlatzhoehle.th</a> # wrong dimensions in lox<br class="">#source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/therion/<a href="http://zubringer.th" class="">Zubringer.th</a> # works somewhat-ok in lox (still extruded to top of box, but the box itself is small)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Greetings,<br class="">Beni<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Am 2021-02-02 6:31, schrieb Stacho Mudrak:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">In that case and if there is just one station in this wrong scrap,<br class="">maybe inserting point dimensions with some reasonable -value [<up><br class=""><down> m] over this station in the scrap should help to normalize<br class="">these crazy heights.<br class="">If there are no up/down data in the centreline, therion calculates<br class="">up/down dimensions from shots from a given station. It is not a<br class="">perfect algorithm and in your case, there is some issue. Placing a<br class="">point dimension close to the station should override this calculation.<br class="">HTH, S.<br class="">On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 23:10, Benedikt Hallinger <<a href="mailto:beni@hallinger.org" class="">beni@hallinger.org</a>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">It's hard to isolate.<br class="">The structure is like this:<br class="">Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/,<br class="">where Zubringer contains more surveys.<br class="">Each folder has its own therion/ subfolder containing the therion<br class="">sources.<br class="">If i do "source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/therion/<a href="http://hirlatzhoehle.th" class="">Hirlatzhoehle.th</a>" the<br class="">bug<br class="">occurs.<br class="">That command sources the entire cave.<br class="">If i do source just the region with "source<br class="">../../../Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/therion/<a href="http://zubringer.th" class="">Zubringer.th</a>" (which<br class="">contains<br class="">essentially the same maps and scraps!) the bug occurs.<br class="">I have no idea how to track this don further, since we already talk<br class="">about alot of data (2.4 km).<br class="">Am 2021-02-01 21:37, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I try to boil it down<br class="">Am 2021-02-01 21:12, schrieb Stacho Mudrak:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hmmm, even scraps extending far beyond a known station could<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>cause a<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">problem - usually, it is the case with steep passages. In your<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>case,<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">it looks like some outline problem.<br class="">Are you able to isolate such scrap and send me some minimalistic<br class="">sample?<br class="">Thanks, S.<br class="">On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><<a href="mailto:beni@hallinger.org" class="">beni@hallinger.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi, thanks for responding,<br class="">i have the problem only tested with the lox.<br class="">The red box fits nicely my selected data.<br class="">The survex file also is OK.<br class="">Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot.<br class="">Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>a<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">known<br class="">station (walls are marked unsurveyed).<br class="">Am 2021-02-01 19:52, schrieb Stacho Mudrak:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Beni,<br class="">thanks for review.<br class="">Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map?<br class="">I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave -<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>entire<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">color range is used - from magenta to red.<br class="">When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the<br class=""></blockquote>whole<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">range is used for selected part.<br class="">Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger?<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>If<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">the<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>remaining -<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does<br class=""></blockquote>this<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">problem remain also with aven .3d export?<br class="">It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>to<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">debian release.<br class="">S.<br class="">On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger<br class=""></blockquote><<a href="mailto:beni@hallinger.org" class="">beni@hallinger.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>printout<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">with<br class="">people showing up again), with one exception:<br class="">- I source all of the cave's data. (ok)<br class="">- Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok)<br class="">- The lox output contains just the selected part (ok)<br class="">- The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>significant<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">altitude changes in the dataset.<br class="">The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in<br class="">relation<br class="">to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>to<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">the<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>expected<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">the<br class="">lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>min/max<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">values<br class="">of the selected dataset.<br class="">$ therion -v<br class="">therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27)<br class="">- using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1<br class="">But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour.<br class="">Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5<br class="">That is the old version, right? 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