<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Nor Survex, nor Therion support theodolite, as I know. Isn’t better to input such measurements as fix points?<div><br></div><div>Martin<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">Odesláno z iPhonu</div><div dir="ltr"><br>14. 12. 2020 v 19:09, Stacho Mudrak <<a href="mailto:lists@group-s.sk">lists@group-s.sk</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Hello,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">could you please try the latest commit? I do not think that even a warning for 270 (=-90) to 360 (=level) degrees clino is necessary. An error can occur if you manually type a comma in the wrong place, but the same may happen with compass & tape and there is no warning.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">S.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 09:43, Andrew Atkinson <<a href="mailto:andrew@wotcc.org.uk">andrew@wotcc.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We have now used 3 different 'Total stations' all by different manufacturers<br>
<br>
All seem to give a choice between<br>
<br>
270 as down 0 as level and 90 as up<br>
<br>
or<br>
<br>
0 as down 90 as level and 180 as up<br>
<br>
None of them have given the choice for negative clino (all the machines<br>
we have use are old, but digital.<br>
<br>
So it does seem normal for theodolites!<br>
<br>
With hindsight I should have chosen the latter,then I could have just<br>
calibrated with a calibrate clino 90<br>
<br>
But it was difficult to get your head round, plus I was using pockettopo<br>
(and sexytopo) to draw the survey in the cave, so it was easier to use<br>
the 270 as down version<br>
<br>
It would be really useful to be able in a centreline-endcentreline nest<br>
to be able to suppress the out of range error and use the 270 to 360<br>
readings, but still have the error/warning for the more normal surveys<br>
<br>
thanks<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
On 14/12/2020 08:24, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:<br>
> Are you sure those data are “normal”?<br>
> <br>
> Martin<br>
> <br>
> Odesláno z iPhonu<br>
> <br>
> 14. 12. 2020 v 1:10, alastair gott <<a href="mailto:alastairgott@hotmail.com" target="_blank">alastairgott@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
> <br>
>> Hi Andrew, if you can get deg,mins,secs to work in survex then you can use the .3d file with the surveys use command. (But I think from your careful wording, you already know this).<br>
>><br>
>> import use.3d -surveys use<br>
>><br>
>> Not ideal afaik for “mixing local and global coordinates” so tricky if your going for a kml output if you have to use with mixed .3d and normal .th files.<br>
>><br>
>> It would be good if you could select a lookup file for the Clino, then you could easily create a translation file in excel and save that as a .th for your total station .th file to lookup to. But no idea if this is feasible or even an idea at all.<br>
>><br>
>> Al.<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>>> On 13 Dec 2020, at 18:15, Andrew Atkinson <<a href="mailto:andrew@wotcc.org.uk" target="_blank">andrew@wotcc.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hello<br>
>>><br>
>>> I thought that there was a way I could stop the out of range error, but<br>
>>> I cannot now find it. It would be an a useful command to have as instead<br>
>>> of negative readings we got readings between 270 and 359, which although<br>
>>> strange is valid. In survex readings over 90 are just a warning, which<br>
>>> seems far more sensible, the problem is that I don't think that I can<br>
>>> enter the data in survex either without conversion as I don't think that<br>
>>> degrees minutes and seconds can be entered.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So I'm stuck with data that I have to convert, for different reasons<br>
>>> depending on whether I use survex of therion.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Here is part of the file, I have quiet a few<br>
>>><br>
>>> survey<br>
>>><br>
>>> centreline<br>
>>> data normal from to clino compass tape ignoreall<br>
>>> 1 2 1:08:25 83:37:40 17.88<br>
>>> 2 3 00:00:00 -:-:- 0.055<br>
>>> 3 - 02:39:00 266:49:00 3.206<br>
>>> 3 - 314:28:20 299:57:45 2.02<br>
>>> 3 - 16:32:25 312:13:20 1.246<br>
>>> 3 - 06:22:35 84:16:10 1.17<br>
>>> 3 - 309:16:45 84:15:50 1.846<br>
>>> 3 - 55:00:10 122:44:50 0.77<br>
>>> 3 - 325:02:55 249:55:45 1.014<br>
>>> 3 5 359:30:50 338:07:25 16.674<br>
>>> 5 - 306:52:00 262:23:20 1.402<br>
>>> 5 - 59:29:30 343:51:30 1.076<br>
>>> 5 - 305:08:25 358:34:30 1.274<br>
>>> 5 - 315:26:20 90:51:35 1.632<br>
>>> 5 - 29:12:45 77:01:35 1.891<br>
>>> 5 - 19:55:50 33:02:00 3.071<br>
>>> 5 - 348:22:35 31:08:25 3.707<br>
>>> 5 - 350:35:20 15:31:25 4.292<br>
>>> 5 - 13:29:35 15:31:20 4.202<br>
>>> 5 - 12:24:50 30:20:20 7.919<br>
>>> 5 6 17:29:05 31:28:50 6.444<br>
>>> 6 - 307:24:35 149:47:35 1.738<br>
>>> 6 - 344:44:40 149:45:30 1.426<br>
>>> 6 - 77:05:35 149:36:05 1.523<br>
>>> 6 - 306:05:00 314:12:10 0.84<br>
>>> 6 - 353:47:50 94:54:35 2.091<br>
>>> 6 - 00:42:00 219:31:40 5.446<br>
>>> 6 - 18:33:50 230:03:05 4.468<br>
>>> 6 7 12:26:05 241:13:00 4.272<br>
>>><br>
>>> .....etc<br>
>>><br>
>>> Anyone got a solution that does not mean I have to convert in a spreadsheet?<br>
>>><br>
>>> thanks<br>
>>><br>
>>> Andrew<br>
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