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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Stacho<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My first two test runs of copyright counting and sorting appeared to go OK, as below. However the third shows up an anomaly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Adding a second copyright to one or two scraps results in that copyright counting as zero (0).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>If I remove the first copyright from each of those scraps, leaving just the second, there is no change to either of the counts ie (32) and (0).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And then I make further changes as described below, and the output is sometimes updated, but other times not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Part of this is consistent with me making a mistake in my testing, but it seems repeatable just now, and is perhaps consistent with one of the effects that I posted on 1 November, and copied below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Authors (carto) are always counted correctly. Copyright counting appears random and usually wrong. I’m not sure there are actually 32 NZSS copyrights, but I guess that is something I should manually check.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I’ll reboot and try again tonight!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bruce<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto all # all/off/number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto-count on # on/off/hide <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright all # all/off/number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright-count <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>off</span> # on/off/hide<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=393 height=65 style='width:4.0972in;height:.6805in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01D6C3C7.0DDD6650"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Copyright alpha-sorted. This is expected behaviour.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto all # all/off/number <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto-count on # on/off/hide<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright all # all/off/number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright-count <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>hide</span> # on/off/hide<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=390 height=64 style='width:4.0625in;height:.6666in' id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01D6C3C7.604CEA50"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Copy-right count-sorted and count hidden. This is expected behaviour.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto all # all/off/number<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics carto-count on # on/off/hide<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright all # all/off/number <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> statistics copyright-count <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>on</span> # on/off/hide<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=401 height=75 style='width:4.1805in;height:.7847in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D6C3C6.96A22D00"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Copyright count-sorted and count shown, but note that:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- count of NSG is (0) regardless of whether there are 1 or 2 scraps with NSG and whether those scraps have only NSG or both NSG and NZSS set,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- count of NZSS is (32) regardless of whether copyright NZSS is removed and replaced with NSG for two of the scraps.<o:p></o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>…but after adding an author…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><img width=384 height=62 style='width:4.0in;height:.6458in' id="Picture_x0020_8" src="cid:image005.png@01D6C3CB.4BC69050"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… the authors are correctly listed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… the NSG copyright-count is (1) when there are <b>two</b> NSG copyrights!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… the NZSS copy-right-count is (32) when there should be two less, as I removed two of them!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>On removing an author…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><img width=388 height=60 style='width:4.0416in;height:.625in' id="Picture_x0020_9" src="cid:image012.png@01D6C3CC.0B3B2AE0"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… the authors are still correctly listed, but<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… NSG copyright is still (1) when it should be (2)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'>… NZSS copyright has reduced to (31) when it would seem it should be (30) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0cm'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Mutton<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 1 November 2020 15:48<br><b>To:</b> 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Subject:</b> [Therion] copyright for survey centrelines not recognised<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>For many years I have been adding a copyright date and text string to each of my scraps and survey centrelines.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Always the same text string, and the date according to when the scrap and centreline was created.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Always with the same result – a statistic in the pdf export that includes the string and a date range.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><img width=174 height=30 style='width:1.8125in;height:.3125in' id="Picture_x0020_5" src="cid:image013.png@01D6C3CD.07364F00"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just now I broke with tradition, and added a new string to a centreline. To my surprise the new copyright did not appear in the output.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>After a little experimentation I have come to come tentative conclusions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Copyrights added to survey centrelines are not added to the statistics in pdf exports that include only survey centrelines.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Copyrights added to survey centrelines are not added to the statistics in pdf exports that include maps.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Copyright strings (different to the majority) added to scraps in large projects may not be added to statistics in pdf exports. In smaller projects they are however.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Copyrights sorting in the pdf output is unpredictable. <br>It is not according to spelling A to Z, but changing the spelling changes the output sorting.<br><img width=270 height=25 style='width:2.8125in;height:.2638in' id="Picture_x0020_6" src="cid:image014.png@01D6C3CD.07364F00"><br><img width=236 height=25 style='width:2.4583in;height:.2638in' id="Picture_x0020_7" src="cid:image015.png@01D6C3CD.07364F00"><br>It is not according to date, changing the date does not change the sort order.<br><img width=232 height=23 style='width:2.4166in;height:.243in' id="Picture_x0020_4" src="cid:image017.png@01D6C3CD.07364F00"><br>In all these examples, there are a number of scraps with “NZSS” as the copyright string, and there is only one example of the other string (“NSG” or “caves.org.nz” respectively.<br>So the sort order is also not related to the number of instances of the same string, because sometimes NZSS sorts first, and sometimes last.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any one have insights or experience with this?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>