<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Another option would be to get the coordinates of the linking mine station and fixing it, and just giving that station a „perfect“ Standards deviation (isn’t that default if not given?)</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">Am 14.11.2020 um 21:29 schrieb Ben Cooper <ben@caver.plus.com>:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Hi Alistair<div>I would definitely link all the survey centrelines. The implication is that you have some errors in the survey, but you know that the straight mine level needs to be straight so the error isn’t there. One thing you could try is to set the SD for the level to be very low, and the SD for the rest of the cave to be quite high. When Therion distributes the error, most of this should go to the survey sections either the highest SD, and the level should be less distorted. </div><div>Best regards </div><div>Ben</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On 14 Nov 2020, at 11:49, alastair gott <alastairgott@hotmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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I'm helping with a project we've got a cave/mine system with a really straight mine level for one of the entrances, which we have the centreline data for (but no sketches to show where the points are).</div>
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When the system was joined up together with all the entrances there was a kink in the mine level. so to counteract this, I removed some of the unknown survey points in the centre of the level and hung the survey on some points at the beginning and end of the
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I now want to add in a section of cave in the centre of the level. I have connected this quite well in a map at a lower level with just the one entrance coordinates in it, but when I run the full map with all the entrances in, the model then tries to remove
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Unfortunately in doing so, it shifts the start of the level (the entrance) to the east. and then leaves the section of cave out unconnected.</div>
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If anyone can help, then the config for the full system is here: <a href="http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/PeakDistrict/Castleton/peak_speedwell_model/" id="LPlnk815444">http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/PeakDistrict/Castleton/peak_speedwell_model/</a></div>
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This is what I get:</div>
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the config for the one entrance coordinate is here:
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If I add in a survey point to hook it to, then I get this:</div>
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Rather than this:</div>
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Adding in more survey points further down the passage to the south only increases the amount of distortion in a small space of passage. as there are three loop closures at the bottom of the picture [just below the red circle) which the model is running (i've
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