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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Or symbol-hide group cave-centreline<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Bruce Mutton <bruce@tomo.co.nz> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:44<br><b>To:</b> 'List for Therion users' <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Try this spelling - centreline<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Schuster<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:37<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>this results in the following error:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>symbol-hide line centerline: error -- thconfig [12] -- thconfig [12] -- unknown symbol specification -- line centerline<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>------ Originalnachricht ------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Von: "Xavier Robert" <<a href="mailto:xavier.robert@univ-grenoble-alpes.fr">xavier.robert@univ-grenoble-alpes.fr</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>An: "List for Therion users" <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Gesendet: 14.04.2020 20:45:38<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'>Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id=x9f74fb6b7074435><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I may be wrong, but it looks like if you plot the centerline ? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>In your thconfig, if you add "symbol-hide line centerline", does it solve your problem ?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>Xavier<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>"Roger Schuster" <<a href="mailto:roger@r-schuster.de">roger@r-schuster.de</a>><br><b>À: </b>"List for Therion users" <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Mardi 14 Avril 2020 13:31:25<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi cavers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>symbol-hide doesn't change anything. Here is a screen shot of the white, trapezoid "artifact":<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><img border=0 width=306 height=249 style='width:3.1875in;height:2.5972in' id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image001.png@01D612F9.A53A5AF0"></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>As said I marked two stations (-visibility off) at opposite ends of the cave on the map getting this white "things". When I use color map-fg the trapezoid is filled in the given foreground color. I use Therion 5.4.4 btw.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>------ Originalnachricht ------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Von: "Torsten Schnitter via Therion" <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>An: "List for Therion users" <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Cc: "Torsten Schnitter" <<a href="mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de">torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gesendet: 14.04.2020 08:50:24<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=x8e482dd2227e415><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I'm not sure about your problem with the "artifacts" but try<br>"symbol-hide point station" in your layout definition for the map.<br>(maybe also "symbol-hide line survey")<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Just a guess...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>cheers,<br>Torsten<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Roger Schuster <<a href="mailto:roger@r-schuster.de">roger@r-schuster.de</a>> hat am 13. April 2020 um 19:00 geschrieben: <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello again,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>finally I got it working and if I compare the output of Therion with the original map on paper there is only a tiny bit of distortion. Both maps match quite nicely. There are just two things I don't understand:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>There is a white, trapezoid gap on the map which isn't on the background image (of course). I guess it has something to do with the morphing - is there a way to get rid of this artifact? <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I also noticed that length and depth statistics in the map header (registers \cavelength and \cavedepth) are wrong while in the log file it's right. The values in the registers obviously depend on which stations / surveys are marked and to get the same values as in the log at least one station of each survey has to be marked (unfortunately each mark results in a more or less ugly white trapezoid as mentioned above). This is the reason why I decided to override the registers in code tex-map.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Unfortunately I can't post the map here because of copyright reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>------ Originalnachricht ------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Von: "עמרי גסטר" < <a href="mailto:omrigas@gmail.com">omrigas@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>An: "List for Therion users" < <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gesendet: 13.04.2020 14:06:17<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>You can use the debug function to see how bad is the distortion and change the position of the station accordingly until you are happy with the result. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 2:52 PM Roger Schuster < <a href="mailto:roger@r-schuster.de">roger@r-schuster.de</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>thank you for your answers. Projection none doesn't work - all survey lines will appear on the pdf but not the scanned map. So I tried projection plan again and marked a second station and this did the trick. The background is now on the output as I expected. One problem I need to solve: The stations aren't marked on the map so I've to guess where they are... My estimation shouldn't be too far off to prevent unwanted distortions of the map. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks again for your support!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Roger<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>------ Originalnachricht ------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Von: "Martin Sluka via Therion" < <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>An: "List for Therion users" < <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Cc: "Martin Sluka" < <a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com">martinsluka@mac.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gesendet: 13.04.2020 12:28:40<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="ox-b7597940cf-m_-8593171827667426717xf54de22af13b48c"><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>13. 4. 2020 v 11:20, Roger Schuster < <a href="mailto:roger@r-schuster.de">roger@r-schuster.de</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:black'>After that I created a scrap with the scanned map (projection plan) and scaled it using the scale bar and the scaling tool of Xtherion map editor. </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I’m afraid it will work only for "projection none" as for sections.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>For plan you should use minimally two stations because Therion georeferences each scrap according those stations.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________ <br>Therion mailing list <br><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a> <br><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><p class=default-style><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 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