<html><body><div id="zimbraEditorContainer" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" class="4"><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Dear all,</div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I do not know if this is a request for a new feature, or if this can easily be solved with the present-day options of Therion.</div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">With my caving club, I am working on relatively big caves (>10/20 km), and I am currently in charge of the survey synthesis. Almost each year, we add new <span style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;display:inline !important;float:none">explored </span><span style="font-size:12pt">passages to the general map, and we annually publish the crops on the passages newly explored/mapped in our caving club journal. </span><span style="font-size:12pt">To print the crops of the parts I am interesting for publishing, I am using selections with maps definitions. Nothing new until there.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">Recently, I had a request from some cavers: For these crops, they asked me to add to the map an inset with the general view of the cave (plan and/or extended elevation) and the location of the crop. Two Illustrator example are in attachement.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">With Therion I could do that (this is more or less what I have done for the attached Solitaire example):</span></div><ol><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">by plotting the whole cave at very small scale (with the options </span>symbol-hide group all / symbol-hide special north-arrow / symbol-hide special scale-bar / symbol-show line wall and all the statistics to off or empty)<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">, </span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">by adding a box manually on this first pdf with illustrator, where I want it and </span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">by using the "map-image" command to add this tuned pdf on the final map of the crop.</span></li></ol><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">However, it will be a pain to do it manually each time I need to print a new part of the cave network.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">Thus, do you know if there is an easy way to do it with a semi-automatic method based on the map selection? </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">I imagine that this should be possible as there are almost similar features for the Atlas mode (with the box \navbox).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">Can we transpose it to plan or extended views ?</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-size:12pt">Otherwise a possible idea could be to add a new command for layout blocks like : </span><em><span style="font-size:12pt">map-box </span><x> <y> <n/s/e/w/ne/nw/se/sw/center> <scale/size></em> with for example:</div><ul style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><li><x> <y> : same definition as map-header or map-image</li><li><em><n/s/e/w/ne/nw/se/sw/center></em>: <span style="color:#000000;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:#ffffff;display:inline !important;float:none">same definition as map-header or map-image</span></li><li><em><scale></em>: scale (in % of the page size? scale of the general map to use, like the base-scale or scale commands?) or size (in cm like for the width of the legend box?) of the box that contains the general map with the map-selection location</li></ul><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">In fact, that would be great! Infortunately, I am not a good coder... But do you thing this is easy to implement?</div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Cheers,</div><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Xavier</div><br><br><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div></div><br></div></div></body></html>