<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">No it does not work.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Phil</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Dec 2019, at 10:34, Torsten Schnitter via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">Hi Phil<br class=""></p><p class="">Thanks.<br class="">If I don't select any line, survey or map it also works on windows.<br class=""></p><p class="">But does it work on your mac if you uncomment the first 5 statements "select line_.... " ?<br class=""></p><p class="">regards,<br class="">Torsten<br class=""></p><blockquote type="cite" class="">Philippe Vernant <<a href="mailto:phil.vernant@gmail.com" class="">phil.vernant@gmail.com</a>> hat am 5. Dezember 2019 um 10:24 geschrieben: <br class=""> <br class="">Hi Torsten, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With this thconfig it works on mac.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best,</div><div class="">Phil</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div></blockquote><p class="default-style"><br class=""> </p><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Dec 2019, at 08:51, Torsten Schnitter via Therion < <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="ox-fee9076e24-Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><p class="">Hi Alastair, hi Henry<br class=""></p><p class="">Thanks for your thoughts.<br class="">Unfortunately it doesn't make any difference.<br class=""></p><p class="">Coordinate system lat-long is supported as you can read in the Therion book on page 14.<br class="">Therefore I don't see a reason not to use it. Beside this it did work in the past (can't say on which Therion version it was).<br class="">And with some of the select statements it still works with lat-long.<br class=""></p><p class="">But I also tried to use "cs UTM31N".<br class="">This didn't make any difference.<br class="">Same select statements are working or not... like with "cs lat-long".<br class=""></p><p class="">regards,<br class="">Torsten<br class=""></p><blockquote type="cite" class="">alastair gott < <a href="mailto:alastairgott@hotmail.com" class="">alastairgott@hotmail.com</a>> hat am 4. Dezember 2019 um 19:35 geschrieben: <br class=""> <br class=""><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hi Torsten,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Would it be cs UTM31N (I use UTM30N for spain so assume that you're UTM31N for the lot)</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">I find the UTM from geoplaner normally, not sure who suggested it, but it's a good shout <a id="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-LPNoLP504906" href="https://www.geoplaner.com/" class="">https://www.geoplaner.com/</a> </div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Worth checking it out on Geoplaner, as its giving me the UTM31N for your coordinates as being 390214 4960303</div><br class=""><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">so i'd say you should try:</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">cs UTM31N</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">fix 9 0 <span style="display: inline; background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">390214 4960303 105</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Marco gives a couple of the coordinate systems that you can use</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> <a id="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-LPlnk155491" href="http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm" class="">http://marcocorvi.altervista.org/caving/tbe/m_02/m_02a.htm</a> <br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Marco doesn't give <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> cs osgb:sk but I know it can be used (If it's in the uk, because of course the British have to be different </span> <span style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;" class="">🙁</span> <span style="background-color: #ffffff; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""> ) </span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" dir="ltr" class=""><span class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-ecxApple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="">Regards,</span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="">Alastair Gott.</span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""> <br class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><a href="mailto:AlastairGott@hotmail.com" class="">AlastairGott@hotmail.com</a>,</span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class=""><br class=""> </span><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="">M: 07931779380.</span></span> <br class=""></div> <br class=""><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;" class=""><div id="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><strong class="">From:</strong> Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" class="">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> on behalf of <a href="mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com" class="">Henry.Bennett@dell.com</a> <<a href="mailto:Henry.Bennett@dell.com" class="">Henry.Bennett@dell.com</a>><br class=""> <strong class="">Sent:</strong> 04 December 2019 16:52<br class=""> <strong class="">To:</strong> <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a> <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br class=""> <strong class="">Subject:</strong> Re: [Therion] kml export is not working</span><div class=""> </div></div><div class=""><div class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_WordSection1"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">Pretty sure you can’t use “CS lat-long”. I can get it to work by stripping back to just using <a href="http://reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th/" class="">reseau_de_louysse_surveys_dry2_2012_09.th</a> and swapping it for “cs EPSG:32651” but then it puts it in completely the wrong place, however it does populate the kml file correctly.</div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Trebuchet MS',sans-serif; color: #002060;" class="">Henry</span></div></div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div class=""><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><strong class="">From:</strong> Therion < <a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" class="">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <strong class="">On Behalf Of </strong>Nick Bairstow <br class=""> <strong class="">Sent:</strong> 03 December 2019 11:44 <br class=""> <strong class="">To:</strong> List for Therion users <br class=""> <strong class="">Subject:</strong> Re: [Therion] kml export is not working</div></div></div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: #ce1126;" class="">[EXTERNAL EMAIL] </span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">> <em class="">As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network.<br class=""> >But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output.<br class=""> >Am I wrong with that?</em></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">You are correct, as long as you input the georeferenced survey in the top level directory you can toggle any output on and off with select in the survey structure.</div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">I had a quick look at your files and struggled a bit with the structure, I will try and work it out tonight.</div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div class=""><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><strong class="">From:</strong> Therion [ <a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" class="">mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] <strong class="">On Behalf Of </strong>Torsten Schnitter via Therion <br class=""> <strong class="">Sent:</strong> 03 December 2019 07:41 <br class=""> <strong class="">To:</strong> List for Therion users < <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>> <br class=""> <strong class="">Cc:</strong> Torsten Schnitter < <a href="mailto:torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de" class="">torsten.schnitter@netcologne.de</a>> <br class=""> <strong class="">Subject:</strong> Re: [Therion] kml export is not working</div></div></div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Hello</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">I have stripped down all the data to the minimum. <br class=""> You can find all attached in the zip file.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">As far as I know you only need a geo reference within your survey network. <br class=""> But you don't need to have a geo reference within your selected data for output. <br class=""> Am I wrong with that?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Anyhow. <br class=""> If you have a look at the "thconfig-survey.thc" file you can find some "DOES NOT WORK" and "DOES WORK" statements. <br class=""> Beside this when not selecting anything it also does work with the kml export. <br class=""> What also does NOT work is selecting all lines (wihat should be the same as selecting nothing).</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">When I do select the map "survey_southpassage_plan_m" it does work. <br class=""> This map does have the same lines like the first part in the thconfig-survey.thc file which is not working.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">May be there is something wrong in the select command?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">regards, <br class=""> Torsten</div><blockquote class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;" class="">Nick Bairstow < <a href="mailto:Nick@pff.uk.com" class="">Nick@pff.uk.com</a>> hat am 2. Dezember 2019 um 23:19 geschrieben:</div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class="">Just got there before me John. You are correct no coords but there is not much else either. I can edit the kml and insert coords name and icon and the file opens as expected but no centreline/splays or map outline in the case of model output. Also, if you try to compile Therion and ask for kml output and there are no coords in the .th then it fails with a warning.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class="">I think there is something else going on and we need to see all the data.</div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"> </p><div class=""><div style="border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></strong> Therion < <a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" class="">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <strong class=""><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;" class="">On Behalf Of </span></strong>John Stevens <br class=""> <strong class=""><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></strong> 02 December 2019 21:38 <br class=""> <strong class=""><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class=""> therion@speleo.sk</a> <br class=""> <strong class=""><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [Therion] kml export is not working</div></div></div><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"> </p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Looking at the kml file, I don't see the geo referenced points. By taking just part of the system, have you cut out a fixed point for the kml. This is a problem I have found when doing part of a system. </span></div></div><div class=""><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> </span></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></strong> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> Torsten Schnitter via Therion </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Sent:</span></strong> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> Monday, December 2, 2019 1:35 PM </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma',sans-serif;" class="">therion@speleo.sk</span></a> <br class=""></div></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Cc:</span></strong> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> Torsten Schnitter </span></div></div><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm;" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Subject:</span></strong> <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""> [Therion] kml export is not working </span></div></div></div></div><div class=""><p class="ox-fee9076e24-ox-5054e9d4db-x_ox-b9863fc2ab-msonormal" style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; margin: 0px 0cm 0px 0cm;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Hello </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">I have some problems with exporting a kml file and I wonder what I'm doing wrong.<br class=""> I'm using Therion 5.4.4 (2019-05-01) on Windows 7.<br class=""> Aim is to just get the survey lines from a part of the cave system into a kml file. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">In the thconfig file I select several lines with the "select command".<br class=""> (I used to do this with double click on the data structure on the right side from the compiler window) </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Generating a pdf file with:<br class=""> export map -fmt pdf -proj plan -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.pdf -layout layout_plan<br class=""> is doing exactly what I want to have.<br class=""> The result is just the survey data from a part of the complete cave system. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">But exporting a kml file with the same selected lines fails:<br class=""> export model -fmt kml -o _Output\Reseau_de_lOuysse_southpassage_2019.kml<br class=""> This file does not have any survey data in it. </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Both files are attached.<br class=""> Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong? 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