<HTML><BODY><p>Thank you very much for catching that! Now model looks perfect!<br><br>This "invalid scrap outline" warning was ringing some bells but I was too impatient when tidying up the scrap.<br><br><br>It would be a great enhancement if there will be an option for walls to cut the spaly triangles in case if splays are not stiking through the wall lines.</p><img id="idae8a427-7121-8d0-e8ab-6c9f642d5180" style="" alt="" src="cid:fc9v@KGeXx5Jq.jKamrh0Z" width="476" height="298"><br><br><br><img id="id1e3f481c-9dd-cede-2989-a7c128c2116c" style="" alt="" src="cid:vugS@HDtMSJPz.qpO708Dc" width="471" height="295"><br><br><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #0857A6; margin:10px; padding:0 0 0 10px;">
Воскресенье, 20 января 2019, 12:59 UTC от Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>:<br>
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<div id="style_15479891970000000575_BODY"><div class="class_1548007723"><div class="">Only one very-very small dummy wall line there, check attached screen-shot. It will be all OK when you delete it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><img height="526" width="749" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" apple-inline="yes" src="cid:366D309E-24CA-4F95-9058-A806588525A5" class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">19. 1. 2019 v 20:30, Andrey via Therion <<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atherion@speleo.sk" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">Hello Therion users,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">I am trying to make a 3D model for a small horizontal cave where only plan had been drawn up.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">In case if I use splays for model generation it cuts through the wall surfaces and looks not very nice.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">If I use just walls with option "export model -wall-source maps" and bunch of "point dimensions" model comes out without floor and cealing.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">Maybe someone can point out what am I doing wrong?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: 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0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">Thanks,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float: none;display: inline !important;" class="">Andrey</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: 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0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;border-left-width: 1px;border-left-style: solid;border-left-color: rgb(8, 87, 166);margin: 10px;padding: 0px 0px 0px 10px;" class="">Вторник, 21 марта 2017, 5:53 UTC от Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atherion@speleo.sk" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""><div id="" class=""><div class="js-helper_mailru_css_attribute_postfix js-readmsg-msg_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><div class=""><div id="style_14900756370000000205_BODY_mailru_css_attribute_postfix" class=""><div class="class_1547957949_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><div class="WordSection1_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">I had put my understandings (about ‘point dimensions’ and ‘point passage-height’) in the wiki</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#points" target="_blank" class="" rel=" noopener noreferrer">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#points</a></p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">under the heading<span class="Apple-converted-space_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"> </span><b class="">Passage Size, Fills and Speleothems</b></p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">and discussed an anomaly. Any corrections or comments welcome.</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">Bruce</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"><span lang="EN-US" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Therion [<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atherion%2dbounces@speleo.sk" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion<br class="">Sent: Tuesday, 21 March 2017 10:23 AM<br class="">To: List for Therion users <<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3atherion@speleo.sk" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br class="">Cc: Martin Sluka <<a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3amartinsluka@mac.com" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">martinsluka@mac.com</a>><br class="">Subject: Re: [Therion] Troubles with the 3D generation</span></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">> 20. 3. 2017 v 20:48, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion <<a target="_blank" class="" rel=" noopener noreferrer"><span style="color: windowtext;text-decoration: none;" class="">therion@speleo.sk</span></a>>:</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">><span class="Apple-converted-space_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">> What is the different between "point dimensions" and "point passage-height"?</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">><span class="Apple-converted-space_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">> If i understand the therion book correctly:</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">> - dimensions is ONLY for the 3D-tube generation and invisible in rendered maps</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">> - otherwise behaves as if "point passage-height [+<up> -<down>] would have been given.</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">><span class="Apple-converted-space_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"> </span></p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">...<clipped>...</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">A bit difficult to understand. I understand passage-height [+8 -3] From water level to ceiling 8 m, depth of water 3 m.</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">But what it means: "-<number> (the depth of the floor" or "[+<number> -<number>] (the distance to ceiling and distance to floor)"? Has floor any depth? Or it means the situation if the point „height“ is on edge of step or pit?</p><p class="MsoPlainText_mailru_css_attribute_postfix_mailru_css_attribute_postfix">m.s.</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder_mailru_css_attribute_postfix"></div></div></div></div><div class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Therion mailing list<br class=""><a href="//e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aTherion@speleo.sk" class="" target="_blank" rel=" noopener noreferrer">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" target="_blank" class="" rel=" noopener noreferrer">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica;font-size: 12px;font-style: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;orphans: auto;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;widows: auto;word-spacing: 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