<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It could be quite simple - just to add to NSS symbol set point symbol for height, there is no one defined yet.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Then you choose in thconfig NSS symbol set. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Try to generate symbol sets table from compiler of Therion - see Thbook. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin S.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">20. 9. 2018 v 13:32, Bill Gee via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hi Martin -</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Now that is an interesting idea! Most of the symbols used in Missouri are<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">UIS, so that would serve as the starting point.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Is there any documentation on how to create an entire symbol set?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">And my original question is still there ... How can I create a symbol that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">puts a number inside a square box?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Bill Gee</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:37:42 AM CDT Martin Sluka via Therion<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">The correct way could be to define “Missoury symbol set” as one of defaults<br class="">for Therion.<br class=""><br class="">It should be more simple than user symbol, because it will work with<br class="">contents menus.<br class=""><br class="">Martin S.<br class=""><br class="">Odesláno z iPhonu<br class=""><br class="">20. 9. 2018 v 1:05, Bill Gee via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi Andrew -<br class=""><br class="">I have defined several of my own symbols such as a pendant and popcorn<br class="">with<br class="">hollow circles. I could easily define a custom point that would display a<br class="">square box.<br class=""><br class="">But then how to get the value displayed inside the box? And how to make<br class="">the box scale according to the number of digits it contains? And will<br class="">Therion do unit conversions like it does for the passage-height object?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">That's why I was looking for the existing code. If I can find it, then<br class="">it is probably pretty easy to modify.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Yes that is probably possible, however, using a defined symbol for<br class="">something else is probably not the right answer. Therion allows you to<br class="">define your own points.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From the wiki<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">point u:xxxx where xxxx is the name of a user defined symbol that you<br class="">have<br class="">defined or referenced in a layout.<br class=""><br class="">The actual definition seems to be beyond me at the moment, let me sleep<br class="">on<br class="">it, but hopefully a more skillful person will have the answer.<br class=""><br class="">Andrew<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 22:28 Bill Gee via Therion, <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" class="">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br class="">wrote:<br class="">Hello everyone -<br class=""><br class="">A common convention around Missouri cave mapping is to indicate the<br class="">height<br class="">change of a floor step by enclosing the value in a square box. This is<br class="">not<br class="">the same as ceiling height which is enclosed in a circle or oval.<br class=""><br class="">I have been using the object "point height" for this. It works except<br class="">there<br class="">is nothing around the value. It just hangs out in space, so to speak.<br class=""><br class="">I used the "-d" option to dump all the MetaPost and TeX code. I find no<br class="">references in any of the files to objects of type height or<br class="">passage-height,<br class="">which implies that these two objects are not generated by MetaPost.<br class=""><br class="">Is it possible to redefine the "point height" symbol so it draws a<br class="">square<br class="">box<br class="">around the value?<br class=""><br class="">Thanks!<br class="">--<br class="">Bill Gee<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Therion mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" class="">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" class="">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Therion mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" class="">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" class="">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Therion mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" class="">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion" class="">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; 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