<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 14 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Helvetica;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Helvetica;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
p.MsoAcetate, li.MsoAcetate, div.MsoAcetate
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:"Sprechblasentext Zchn";
margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
{mso-style-name:msonormal;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
span.E-MailFormatvorlage18
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:windowtext;}
span.E-MailFormatvorlage19
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:windowtext;}
span.E-MailFormatvorlage22
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
span.SprechblasentextZchn
{mso-style-name:"Sprechblasentext Zchn";
mso-style-priority:99;
mso-style-link:Sprechblasentext;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-language:EN-US;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;
font-size:10.0pt;}
@page WordSection1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:70.85pt 70.85pt 2.0cm 70.85pt;}
div.WordSection1
{page:WordSection1;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Dear Bruce, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>thank you very much for your detailed explanations. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>After your explanations I resume for me, I modify the size of the ready map in or with the program which I use for making my publication. That I have also done in the past. I have thought there could/must be a possibility directly in Therion. What a shame….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Markus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:DE'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:DE'> Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Bruce Mutton via Therion<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Sonntag, 1. Juli 2018 22:43<br><b>An:</b> 'List for Therion users'<br><b>Cc:</b> Bruce Mutton<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Therion] Page Size<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Hi Markus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Yes, but with limitations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>If you export map -f pdf, then you can indirectly influence the page size by adjusting the scale and where you place the header. Not as precise as you are wanting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>If you export atlas -f pdf, then you can precisely specify the page size, as you have been attempting. The cave is then distributed across as many pages as is required. Disadvantages are that you cannot place headers and other objects on the pages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Have a look <a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/bds">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/bds</a> where there is some information.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white'><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>“A <strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>map output</span></strong> (not to be confused with a map object) is contained on a single ‘page’ and the size of the page is automatically made big enough to fit the cave by the software. A number of formats are supported but pdf seems to be the most comprehensive. Pdf maps can include graphics such as photos, logos, other pdf files or previously created cave maps.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white;box-sizing: border-box;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px'><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>An <strong><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>atlas output</span></strong> cuts the cave up to fit a user defined ‘paper size’ and adds a navigation pane. Hyperlinks in the navigation pane and at the page edges facilitate rapid navigation. If multiple maps are selected in the thconfig file, then chapters are automatically created separating the maps. These may be different caves or different levels in the cave – with hyperlinks to navigate between different levels. Only pdf format is supported. Inserted graphic images are NOT supported.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Also <a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/templates#atlas_specific">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/templates#atlas_specific</a> which contains some useful atlas paper size layouts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'> Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Markus Boldt via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 1 July 2018 23:02</span><span lang=EN-NZ><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hello, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>how is it possible to „say“ Therion to make a PDF-File with for example a Size of DIN A4 (21 x 29,7 cm)? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have tried <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Page-setup 21 29.7 20 29 0.1 0.1 cm <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>it doesn`t work <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have tried <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Size 21 29.7 cm <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>It doesn`t, too <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The command is ignored…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Greetings <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Markus <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>