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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Evaristo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nicely explained. As though English was your first language!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think that is the same general concept that Marco suggested – “</span>I think that extend should take values in the interval [-1,1]”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>An idealised profile is what I guess we are all aiming for, but at present we are limited by the Therion controls left, right vertical. Looks like you have done a very good job with the example you posted.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'> Therion <therion-bounces@speleo.sk> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Evaristo Quiroga via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> Marco Corvi via Therion <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Cc:</b> Evaristo Quiroga <eqr@ecgracia.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] extend<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<br><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>Since we are with the extend letter of santa claus, I'm going to make my own request: <b>idealized profile. </b></span></span><b><span lang=EN><br><br></span></b><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>First remember a bit the profile types:</span></span><span lang=EN><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'><b>Projected profile: </b>which displays the cave passages at a right angle to the plan view, or as if the front wall of the cave have been "removed". The projected profile gives the best idea of how the different cave levels relate, but the view is sometimes confusing in winding passages. <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p><img width=2094 height=1793 style='width:21.8125in;height:18.677in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D40091.1A645D30"><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><b>Extended profile</b>: displays the cave as if it were pulled into a straight line. This profile provides a view of the caves as it will be experienced by cavers.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p><img width=2070 height=1642 style='width:21.5625in;height:17.1041in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.png@01D40091.1A645D30"><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><b>Idealized profile</b>: is a compromise between the other two profiles, it maintains the approximate bounds of projected profile or extended profile, but expands or reduce the length of the passage to better show the subjective view. This type of profile is a somewhat subjective view that depends on the cartographer's ability to "stretch" the cave and its passages, while maintaining a somewhat "pseudo-projected" point-of-view to the profile. <o:p></o:p></li></ul><p><img width=2078 height=1841 style='width:21.6458in;height:19.177in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.png@01D40091.1A645D30"><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><span lang=EN>Currently with Therion I am already making my own idealized profile. Starting from a extended profile, I turn the gallery to the left or right (extend left or right) depending on the plan, and using the vertical extension (extend vertical) to finish adjusting the relative position of the two galleries of the loop.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><img width=1413 height=957 style='width:14.7187in;height:9.9687in' id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image004.png@01D40091.1A645D30"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>To have more control over to "stretch" the cave passages, I need the Therion authors to incorporate an option to the extend command: <b>scale</b>. </span></span><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>This factor would allow to stretch or reduce the horizontal length of the leg shots. By default it would be equal to 1. if I want to reduce the distance it would be less than 1. if I want to stretch the distance would be greater than 1.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>The definition of the command would be:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN> extend <spec> [<station> [<station>]] [scale]</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>Example: extend left A.2 A.3 0.5 # To reduce the length </span></span><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>With this new option it would be very easy to make idealized profiles. This option is best applied to the long horizontal sections, leaving the vertical sections without modification.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><br><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>I hope to have explained myself well in my Spanglish, and I hope that my wishes are taken into account.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>Best regards and exciting explorations.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span class=shorttext><span lang=EN>Evaristo. </span></span><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span lang=EN><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>