<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Agree. If it works as it schould work but in this version it is the bug. <br><br>Odesláno z iPhonu</div><div><br>19. 3. 2018 v 19:54, Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m a big fan of undo, and use it a lot. Unfortunately I did not notice the reason in this case until too late. I got to the end of the undo stack before the problem was resolved.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think that the reason I did not take sufficient notice is that although the zoom behaviour was not quite right, I was sure I had not rolled the mouse wheel. Hence I though I’d stumbled on a variant of the bug, and so put up with it for too long before trying to back out. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For me rolling the mouse wheel to zoom is such a reflex (almost every application uses it) that I do it without realising. One option, short of fixing the bug, would be to have the zoom level display on the menu bar between the + and – controls. That would give the user a cue to an imminent problem. The notification in the Drawing Area side menu is buried too deep for the user to review constantly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Therion <<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Sluka via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 19 March 2018 10:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Martin Sluka <<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com">martinsluka@mac.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Scaling problems with backgrounds in th2 files - XTherion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The same problem. I used undo button to return to the correct state.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Martin S.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">19. 3. 2018 v 9:44, Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Today I made a new .th2 drawing file and used a .png file as a background image. Not something I do very much these days, as I typically use .xvi files created PocketTopo files. The xvi images work just fine in XTherion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But as described in the post in this link,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06890.html"><span style="color:#954F72">https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg06890.html</span></a>, there are problems when using the mouse wheel to zoom if background images are .jpg or .png. Until now I have adopted a work around of only using the menu + and – zoom buttons where th2 files are linked to these.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">However for one projected elevation drawing, even the + and – controls are problematic. I think I accidentally used the mouse wheel before inserting the image. As a result the image is only aligned with the sketch at one particular zoom level. 144% in this case. There is also a problem with the image clipping.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><image001.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In the above example, if I zoom out one level, the drawing reduces, but the image does not change by the same amount.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><image002.png><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If I use the zoom wheel, the situation compounds and gets worse. So I have a situation where I can only align this drawing at one zoom level, and I have to be careful not to use the mouse wheel.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Not really a problem in this case, as it is a trivial survey and scrap, but it is a significant issue for anyone who might still be regularly using scanned sketches for drawing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Is this something that someone knows how to address?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I’m using Therion 5.4.1+f0c98ce (2018-03-03)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Bruce<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>Therion mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72">Therion@speleo.sk</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br></span><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#954F72">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Therion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a></span><br><span><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion">https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>