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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>OK, it seems Therion wiki image rendering depends on device and browser.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have not noticed any issues at all with other websites, just the Therion wiki, and only since it was upgraded sometime back. Of course I don’t frequent much other than Therion…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So looking at the </span><a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/faq" target="_blank">faq</a> page which has about 36 images…<span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chrome on Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 using home wifi/fibre connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>6x</span> images above Troubleshooting do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chrome on Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 using mobile data connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>11x</span> images near end do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Samsung Internet on Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 using home wifi/fibre connection: <span style='background:lime;mso-highlight:lime'>all images render</span> correctly<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Samsung Internet on Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 using mobile data connection: <span style='background:lime;mso-highlight:lime'>all images render</span> correctly, although <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>29x</span> do NOT after clearing cache!<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=5 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Safari on iPad using home wifi/fibre connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>About ~6x</span> images above Troubleshooting do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>IE11 on Windows 7 using corporate connection: <span style='background:lime;mso-highlight:lime'>all images render</span> correctly<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chrome on Windows 7 using corporate connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>lots</span> of images near but not at end do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=8 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chrome on Windows 10 home using home wired/fibre connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>18x</span> images near but not at end do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>IE11 on Windows 10 home using home wired/fibre connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>13x</span> images near but not at end do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>MS Edge on Windows 10 home using home wired/fibre connection: <span style='background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>9x</span> images do NOT render<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Interesting that the least capable devices performed best, so long as the right application is used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The issue typically manifests like this…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=311 height=327 style='width:3.2395in;height:3.4062in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D2E491.08968A00"><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Martin Sluka and Vladimir don’t have any issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Perhaps it is just a New Zealand problem?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>???????? ???????? via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 June 2017 7:16 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Cc:</b> Владимир Георгиев <vld.georgiev@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] wiki images do not render<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The images work fine on my system (Win 7 with Firefox). I scrolled around the page and did not see any placeholders. All the thumbnails seem to be there and clicking them opens the larger images.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>I suppose that it could be caused by your ISP or another proxy/firewall software in between. Have you checked from other computers or locations?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vladimir<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>For some months now, some of the images in the Therion wiki do not render.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>At least that is my experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I typically use Chrome, but checked just now with IE11 and with MS Edge. All have pretty much the same behaviour.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It is as though the web page can only display so many images, and once some limit is reached, only a placeholder icon is displayed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Clicking some of the icons will bring up the image, but with others, there is an error like this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=0 width=360 height=155 style='width:3.75in;height:1.6145in' id="m_-5749467275426351231Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D2E48A.A2B11620"><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>If I edit the page, and then click preview, the images appear in preview perfectly, but on saving the page, they are usually back to placeholder icons.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To see what I mean, look at the FAQ page <a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/faq" target="_blank">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/faq</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Then scroll down ‘How to arrange the maps’, the images below here are placeholder icons only, with some exceptions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is this the same for others?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is there a solution?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#888888'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>