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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Martin<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The Therion debug feature is useful, but I would suggest that it is for micro interrogation of at most a few scraps at a time, and not for quickly identifying the macro loop error health of a project.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Typos like the one you describe would not be evident from scrap distortions, at least in my case, as (in the old days of manual surveying with compass and book) the scraps would be drawn using the erroneous data, so no distortion mismatch between centreline and scrap would be flagged by Therion. Would only be found by the person drawing noticing that something looked out of proportion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have attached a small part of a 30km project, which has at least three loops shown, and for which I had to make a number of changes (turn off passage fill colour, experiment with debug settings) especially to produce a debug pdf. The relative loop closure error does not exactly stand out.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I could perhaps go to more effort and turn off drawings to leave only centreline, but my point is; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>With Avens ‘colour by error’ the loop information would be interactively available in an instant, for every single compile (provided you export a model.3d by default, which I do, they are fast and small, so cannot be considered a significant overhead).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I’m looking forward to the next release <span style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>By the way, is it possible to create a Therion debug with the black, yellow and orange debug features, without the ‘first’, ‘second’ and ‘scrap-names’?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>If so, that might ease the confusion in the image attached.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Bruce <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'><img width=1336 height=686 style='width:13.9166in;height:7.1458in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D28E73.0BA56E60"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-NZ'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion<br>Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2017 10:01 PM<br>To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br>Cc: Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com><br>Subject: Re: [Therion] Aven colour by loop error</span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> 23. 2. 2017 v 3:08, Olly Betts via Therion <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>therion@speleo.sk</span></a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I've done the armchair equivalent and used Aven's error colouring to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> successfully find mis-ties, reversed legs, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You will find them by drawing scraps in xtherion with "debug on“ option in thconfig immediately. Typos too - like 1.23/12.3 m length. Idea of scraps and maps is the most important part of Therion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>m.s.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Therion mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Therion@speleo.sk</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>