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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Henry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There are subtleties associated with the choice between using walls and lines with -outline set, that go beyond appearance and internal passage shading.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>This from <a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist">https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#wall">Walls</a> (and lines with -outline in/out) define the outline of the scrap. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:7.5pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Walls are just a special type of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/drawingchecklist#lines" title=drawingchecklist><b><span style='color:#337AB7'>line</span></b></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>that;<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white;box-sizing: border-box'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>has the option '-outline out' set by default,<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white;box-sizing: border-box'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>clips many symbols that typically only appear inside the cave passage (unless '-outline none' is set),<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white;box-sizing: border-box'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>have their own special subtypes, and altitude labelling, that are not available to other lines,<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white;box-sizing: border-box'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>are used by the scrap join algorithm to decide which line ends to join (for<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><em><u><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;font-style:normal'>visible</span></u></em><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>wall lines only),<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#333333;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3;background:white;box-sizing: border-box'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>define the shape of previewed (above and below) scrap outlines (other linetypes with -outline set to in or out do not do this <unfortunately>).<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Like Martin, my preference for surface bluffs and similar features, after experimenting some years ago, is to use…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>line wall:pit -outline none -clip off<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>(I think the second bullet point statement above, in parentheses is incorrect, maybe should read – unless ‘-clip off’ is set)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>If I wanted a different appearance to line wall:pit, I would probably redefine the symbol for wall:pit rather than use a non-wall linetype, so that I can retain the scrap joining and preview characteristics of walls.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Therion [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Sluka via Therion<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 February 2017 11:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk><br><b>Cc:</b> Martin Sluka <martinsluka@mac.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Therion] Surface or Canyon walls<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is from AUT symbol set:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=475 height=97 style='width:4.9479in;height:1.0104in' id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D2875B.129F9E30" alt="Snímek obrazovky 2017-02-14 v 11.50.20.png"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Better idea is "-outline none -clip off" option, because it is surface morphology, not a part of an underground cavity.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>m.s.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>