<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">6. 9. 2015 v 11:50, Juan Corrin <<a href="mailto:uzueka@aol.com" class="">uzueka@aol.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">It seems daft to me that enthusiastic surveyors are not using the software </div><div class="">because of its complicated front end. <br class=""><div style="clear: both;" class=""><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Again:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. try to imagine format of data for all kinds of surveying technologies available, with preserving the original format of data and include all the logs and notes around. Try imagine such windows only editor.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. try to imagine map editor you may use any kind of vector symbol you are able to imagine.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">3. try to imagine export command to export all the kinds of PDF outputs you may imagine, and export all the format therion is able to export.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The problem is not the therion itself, problem is the complexity of documentation of caves. If somebody have to make a map of cave for himself and for his group, he may use what he want. If he will want to make complex documentation of cave and preserve it for feature, independent of computer platform, computers as well, … he has only one choice.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">One may use therion in very, very simple way, without 99 % of its complexity. So maybe much better is to start from this point.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Use simple </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">file <a href="http://123.th" class="">123.th</a>:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">survey 123</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> input 123.th2</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> centerline</div><div class=""> ….</div><div class=""> encenterline</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> map 123.map</div><div class=""> ….</div><div class=""> endmap</div><div class="">ensurvey</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">file 123.th2:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">small simple scraps in map editor.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In compiler part use simple:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">source <a href="http://123.th" class="">123.th</a></div><div class="">select 123.map</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">export map</div><div class="">export model</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Enough simple for newbies, isn’t it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Martin</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div></body></html>