<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Thanks I’ll check them out.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 23, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Andrew Atkinson <<a href="mailto:andrew@wotcc.org.uk">andrew@wotcc.org.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">try<br><br><a href="http://cave-registry.org.uk/">http://cave-registry.org.uk/</a><br><br>loads to look at there, although not all of them are Therion.<br><br>The one that I work mainly on<br><br><a href="http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/CheddarCatchment/">http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/CheddarCatchment/</a><br><br>Meets your 4 point below, don't think that there is any data that has<br>come out of Walls or Onstation. Some of it has come from compass, for<br>which I wrote a script, but it was quick and dirty, probably not much<br>use to others.<br><br>Gough's and Reservoir have lots of different outputs from the same data,<br>with overlaps. For the output without the full understanding of Therion,<br>can be found here<br><br><a href="http://www.ubss.org.uk/cave_survey_archive.php#Cheddar">http://www.ubss.org.uk/cave_survey_archive.php#Cheddar</a><br><br>For a couple of slightly easier datasets, without the fancy outputs<br>(yet) there are<br><br><a href="http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/WookeyCatchment/">http://www.cave-registry.org.uk/svn/WookeyCatchment/</a><br><br><a href="http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Burrington/">http://cave-registry.org.uk/svn/Burrington/</a><br><br>All three are been actively worked on and with an SVN client you could<br>even replay how they have been built up. I do not, however, follow the<br>recommended way to arrange data, I have arranged it so every folder<br>should be stand alone, I find that it has the advantage that people<br>without the full understanding of Therion can work on the bits that they<br>are interested in, probably has some disadvantages to putting the whole<br>thing together, but I cannot say I have found it a problem<br><br>Andrew<br><br>On 23/04/15 20:57, Rob Countess wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Does anyone mind sending me one of your data sets. It would help me<br>understand the structure and organization.<br>I have data for several cave areas on Vancouver Island BC Canada in<br>Walls and On Station. I want to convert the whole mess.<br>My data sets are<br><br>Glory 'ole/Arch Cave area<br>  -18 km in 4 main caves and a dozen or so smaller caves linked by<br>overland survey and GPS<br>  - longest caves are  Arch (10.6 km km 3 entrances), Glory 'ole (2.7<br>km) Pellucidar (1.9 km) Resonance (1.8 km)<br>  - Arch cave is divided into several series based on streams and<br>distinct areas of the cave<br>  - 3 caves (Glory 'ole, Resonance, and Arch) overlap in plan view (I<br>want to produce a high level map with all three caves in different<br>colours, initially just line plots but eventually real maps)<br><br>White Ridge<br>-7 km in 3 main caves and a half dozen smaller caves Linked by radio<br>location and GPS<br><br>Larch Mountain<br><br>2 km in 3 main caves and a dozen smaller caves linked by GPS<br><br>I also have a friend that manages data for Weymer Creek (over 30 km in<br>over 100 caves, longest are 12 and 9 km lots of caves overlap in plan<br>view). I am trying to convince him to switch to Therion too.<br><br>I am looking for an example data set that has<br><br>1) multiple caves in one caving area<br>2) at least one cave large enough to be broken into series<br>3) overlapping layers in at least one of the caves<br>4) examples of files to produces different outputs with overlapping<br>caves or cave series in different colours on the same map.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Rob Countess<br><br>PS If you don't want to spam the mailing list then send to:<br><a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">rob.countess@gmail.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com</a>><br><br><br>On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Xavier Pennec <<a href="mailto:Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr">Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr</a><br><<a href="mailto:Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr">mailto:Xavier.Pennec@inria.fr</a>>> wrote:<br><br>   if all stations have different name in Compass and Walls, could they<br>   be put in a single survey name-space?<br>   However, I agree that this is not the cleanest way as it is not<br>   respecting the structure of surveys that was previously defined.<br><br>   Xavier<br><br>   Le 22/04/2015 13:31, Martin Sluka a écrit :<br><br>       The problem of Compass and Walls data conversion is generate<br>       list of equate commands. In Compass and Walls it is simple,<br>       because there couldn’t be two stations with identical name. But<br>       in Therion it is not a rule. So you should to do it manually.<br><br>       in survey12 which is above survey1 and survey2:<br><br>       equal a101@survey1 a101@survey2<br><br>       m.s.<br><br><br>           19. 4. 2015 v 10:20, Robert Countess <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">rob.countess@gmail.com</a><br>           <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com</a>>>:<br><br>           <Glory.zip><br><br>           This is from the Glory ‘ole caving area on Vancouver Island.<br>           I surveyed there from 1996 to 2007 in Arch Cave (10.5 km)<br>           Glory ‘ole (now 2.8 km) and Resonance (now 1.8 km). The area<br>           had been previously explored from 1980-1988 and some maps<br>           produced by hand. Much of the original data was lost. I<br>           resurveyed a few km in Arch cave and added 5 km but never<br>           completed a map due to the fact that loop closures were<br>           wreaking havoc with my walls and Illustrator attempts at a<br>           map. The original data in Arch was sketchy solo topofil<br>           survey. Resonance was extended by about 1km and an map<br>           produced but recently another half kilometre of passage has<br>           been added. Glory ‘ole was increased by about a kilometre<br>           but the main passage original survey 1.3 km needed to be<br>           resurveyed which led to no map. There are drafting leads in<br>           connection areas between the three caves. Two other caves<br>           Pellucidar and Tsulton Rising (cave dive) were managed by<br>           Pat Shaw, a cave diver.<br><br>           I went off to medical school in 2007 and nobody picked up<br>           the torch as far as drawing maps. Now I’m back and we are at<br>           it again. I want Therion to keep the maps up to date with<br>           the exploration going forward.<br><br>           The data is from 2004. I lost my 2007 copy due to 7 years of<br>           neglect and hard drive failure. I still have original notes<br>           of all exploration I was involved in but there are probably<br>           3 km of passage that should be resurveyed.<br><br>           I’m getting the hang of Therion and have got Resonance and<br>           Glory ‘ole centerline data converted over.<br><br><br><br><br>           On Apr 19, 2015, at 12:54 AM, Martin Sluka<br>           <<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com">martinsluka@mac.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com">mailto:martinsluka@mac.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br>               Robert, may you send me an example of Walls data?<br><br>               I was surprised how simple is to convert Compass data to<br>               Therion. As I may say, Compass data are small subset of<br>               Therion’s format so several simple copy/paste made the job.<br><br>               m.s.<br><br><br>                   19. 4. 2015 v 6:41, Robert Countess<br>                   <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">rob.countess@gmail.com</a><br>                   <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com</a>>>:<br><br>                   Thanks for the help.<br><br>                   Generated my first pdf plan and profile with<br>                   UTM/elevation and xvi file for drawing map. I love<br>                   how automatic many of these things are. I am feeling<br>                   hopeful about Therion now. I am stoked to finally<br>                   finish the maps of Arch, Resonance, and Glory ‘ole<br>                   and hopefully later this summer we will connect them<br>                   all to make it at least Canada’s second longest<br>                   Cave. If I get this working, I’m sure I can convince<br>                   some other Canadian cavers to use Therion. Then<br>                   again I can’t even get them to use Walls. Many are<br>                   still using On Station. I think the speed and<br>                   flexibility of output with win them over.<br><br>                   One tiny annoyance. One of the surveyors last names<br>                   is von Vorkampff and Therion gives and “invalid name<br>                   format” error message. I changed it to von_Vorkampff<br>                   and bypassed the error but with sub par final map<br>                   output - it says  von.Vorkampff<br><br>                   Again, thanks for helping me out. I’m sure I’ll have<br>                   more questions later.<br><br>                   Rob Countess<br><br>                   On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:49 PM,<br>                   <a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">therion-request@speleo.sk</a><br>                   <<a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:<br><br>                       Send Therion mailing list submissions to<br>                               <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">mailto:therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                       To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide<br>                       Web, visit<br><br>                       <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br>                       or, via email, send a message with subject or<br>                       body 'help' to<br>                               <a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">therion-request@speleo.sk</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                       You can reach the person managing the list at<br>                               <a href="mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk">therion-owner@speleo.sk</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                       When replying, please edit your Subject line so<br>                       it is more specific<br>                       than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..."<br><br><br>                       Today's Topics:<br><br>                       1. Re: having trouble, first time user (Wookey)<br>                       2. Re: Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4, having<br>                       trouble, first<br>                          time user (Robert Countess) (Dave Clucas)<br><br><br>                       ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>                       Message: 1<br>                       Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 23:07:26 +0100<br>                       From: Wookey <<a href="mailto:wookey@wookware.org">wookey@wookware.org</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:wookey@wookware.org">mailto:wookey@wookware.org</a>>><br>                       Subject: Re: [Therion] having trouble, first<br>                       time user<br>                       To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">mailto:therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                       Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk">20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk">mailto:20150418220726.GF8982@halon.org.uk</a>>><br>                       Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>                       +++ Robert Countess [2015-04-18 12:25 -0700]:<br><br>                           Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX<br>                           installation instructions on wiki<br><br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl<br>                           -fsSL https://<br>                           <a href="http://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install">raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install</a><br>                           <<a href="http://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install">http://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install</a>>)"<br><br>                       [lots of dependency/package building]<br><br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6<br>                           files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion<br>                           -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion<br><br>                       This is exactly the reason that 20 years ago<br>                       binary linux<br>                       distributions were invented, to replace the<br>                       previous painful process<br>                       of users downloading code and tools and<br>                       dependencies and building<br>                       them all until they got some software working.<br>                       'brew' attempts to<br>                       automate this process but there are still a lot<br>                       of ways it can go<br>                       wrong.<br><br>                       Do Mac people not have a proper packaging system<br>                       someone could make<br>                       therion packages for?<br><br>                           _____________________________________________________<br><br>                           A program named WISH opened and window named<br>                           therion compiler. The Status bar<br>                           at the bottom read ?User interface is not<br>                           active. To activate it open and<br>                           existing file or create a new one."<br>                           When I try to open a file with either the<br>                           Wish file|open or the folder button<br>                           I am unable to open any files in the Demo<br>                           data set - they are all grey and<br>                           cannot be selected.<br><br>                           I am a first time user. Previously used On<br>                           Station and the Walls. I had data<br>                           for 3 major caving areas in Walls totalling<br>                           about 50 km of cave. I want to<br>                           switch it all to Therion but if I can?t get<br>                           the program to work then I?ll have<br>                           to stick with Walls.<br><br>                       I'm sure we can get you going. We do have<br>                       several mac users here, but<br>                       I'm not one so can't really provide much help.<br><br>                       Can you get a command prompt? Can you run<br>                       'xtherion' from there?<br>                       That's the user interface for drawing stuff up.<br><br>                       'therion' is the compiler tool that processes<br>                       the data. What happens<br>                       if you run 'therion -v version'? Does that print<br>                       out a version? or<br>                       'therion --print-init-file'?<br><br>                       If you can convert some of your (centreline)<br>                       data (just using a text<br>                       editor) you should be able process it using just<br>                       'therion'.<br><br>                       You will need xtherion in order to draw up cave<br>                       sections.<br><br>                       Has anyone written a walls to therion conversion<br>                       tool? I'm not aware of<br>                       one.<br><br>                       Wookey<br>                       --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>                       Principal hats:  Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM<br>                       <a href="http://wookware.org/">http://wookware.org/</a><br><br><br>                       ------------------------------<br><br>                       Message: 2<br>                       Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:18:41 +0100<br>                       From: Dave Clucas <<a href="mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com">dave.clucas@icloud.com</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com">mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com</a>>><br>                       Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Digest, Vol 112,<br>                       Issue 4, having<br>                               trouble, first time user (Robert Countess)<br>                       To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">mailto:therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                       Message-ID:<br>                       <<a href="mailto:2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com">2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com">mailto:2A55A0EF-15F8-414A-B2CB-0EA18192A198@icloud.com</a>>><br>                       Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br><br>                       To open an existing file start Terminal and type<br>                       xtherion followed by the filename you wish to<br>                       open. You may drag the filename from a Finder<br>                       window.<br><br>                       Dave Clucas<br>                       <a href="http://daveclucas.com/">daveclucas.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://daveclucas.com/">http://daveclucas.com</a>><br>                       <<a href="http://daveclucas.com/">http://daveclucas.com/</a>><br>                       <a href="http://sarawak-caves.com/">sarawak-caves.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://sarawak-caves.com/">http://sarawak-caves.com</a>><br>                       <<a href="http://sarawak-caves.com/">http://sarawak-caves.com/</a>><br>                       <a href="mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com">dave.clucas@icloud.com</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com">mailto:dave.clucas@icloud.com</a>><br>                       <<a href="mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com">mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com</a><br>                       <<a href="mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com">mailto:daveclucas@icloud.com</a>>><br><br>                       Exploring the World - One cave at a time<br><br><br>                           On 18 Apr 2015, at 21:17,<br>                           <a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">therion-request@speleo.sk</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk</a>> wrote:<br><br>                           Send Therion mailing list submissions to<br>                                   <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">mailto:therion@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                           To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World<br>                           Wide Web, visit<br><br>                           <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br>                           or, via email, send a message with subject<br>                           or body 'help' to<br>                                   <a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">therion-request@speleo.sk</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-request@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                           You can reach the person managing the list at<br>                                   <a href="mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk">therion-owner@speleo.sk</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk">mailto:therion-owner@speleo.sk</a>><br><br>                           When replying, please edit your Subject line<br>                           so it is more specific<br>                           than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..."<br><br><br>                           Today's Topics:<br><br>                           1. having trouble, first time user (Robert<br>                           Countess)<br><br><br>                           ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>                           Message: 1<br>                           Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:25:37 -0700<br>                           From: Robert Countess<br>                           <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">rob.countess@gmail.com</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com">mailto:rob.countess@gmail.com</a>>><br>                           Subject: [Therion] having trouble, first<br>                           time user<br>                           To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">mailto:therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                           Message-ID:<br>                           <<a href="mailto:3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com">3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com</a><br>                           <<a href="mailto:3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com">mailto:3EF75C43-2B28-4525-A08F-FBD57383F1AF@gmail.com</a>>><br>                           Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>                           Im using Mac OSX10.9. followed MacOSX<br>                           installation instructions on wiki<br><br>                           Installed Mactex<br>                           rebooted<br><br>                           Last login: Fri Apr 17 12:19:12 on console<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ make<br>                           xcode-select: note: no developer tools were<br>                           found at '/Applications/Xcode.app',<br>                           requesting install. Choose an option in the<br>                           dialog to download the command line<br>                           developer tools.<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$<br>                           [Restored]<br>                           Last login: Sat Apr 18 09:14:48 on console<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$<br>                           [Restored]<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ ruby -e "$(curl<br>                           -fsSL<br>                           <a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/master/install</a>)"<br>                           ==> This script will install:<br>                           /usr/local/bin/brew<br>                           /usr/local/Library/...<br>                           /usr/local/share/man/man1/brew.1<br>                           ==> The following directories will be made<br>                           group writable:<br>                           /usr/local/.<br>                           /usr/local/bin<br>                           /usr/local/share<br>                           /usr/local/share/man<br>                           /usr/local/share/man/man1<br>                           ==> The following directories will have<br>                           their group set to admin:<br>                           /usr/local/.<br>                           /usr/local/bin<br>                           /usr/local/share<br>                           /usr/local/share/man<br>                           /usr/local/share/man/man1<br><br>                           Press RETURN to continue or any other key to<br>                           abort<br>                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx<br>                           /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share<br>                           /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1<br><br>                           WARNING: Improper use of the sudo command<br>                           could lead to data loss<br>                           or the deletion of important system files.<br>                           Please double-check your<br>                           typing when using sudo. Type "man sudo" for<br>                           more information.<br><br>                           To proceed, enter your password, or type<br>                           Ctrl-C to abort.<br><br>                           Password:<br>                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/chgrp admin<br>                           /usr/local/. /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share<br>                           /usr/local/share/man /usr/local/share/man/man1<br>                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/mkdir<br>                           /Library/Caches/Homebrew<br>                           ==> /usr/bin/sudo /bin/chmod g+rwx<br>                           /Library/Caches/Homebrew<br>                           ==> Downloading and installing Homebrew...<br>                           remote: Counting objects: 3533, done.<br>                           remote: Compressing objects: 100%<br>                           (3387/3387), done.<br>                           remote: Total 3533 (delta 34), reused 1514<br>                           (delta 18), pack-reused 0<br>                           Receiving objects: 100% (3533/3533), 2.65<br>                           MiB | 1.55 MiB/s, done.<br>                           Resolving deltas: 100% (34/34), done.<br>                            From<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew">https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew</a><br>                           * [new branch]      master     -> origin/master<br>                           HEAD is now at 681c6f3 txt2tags: modernize<br>                           and add test<br>                           ==> Installation successful!<br>                           ==> Next steps<br>                           Run `brew help` to get started<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew help<br>                           Example usage:<br>                           brew [info | home | options ] [FORMULA...]<br>                           brew install FORMULA...<br>                           brew uninstall FORMULA...<br>                           brew search [foo]<br>                           brew list [FORMULA...]<br>                           brew update<br>                           brew upgrade [FORMULA...]<br>                           brew pin/unpin [FORMULA...]<br><br>                           Troubleshooting:<br>                           brew doctor<br>                           brew install -vd FORMULA<br>                           brew [--env | config]<br><br>                           Brewing:<br>                           brew create [URL [--no-fetch]]<br>                           brew edit [FORMULA...]<br>                           open<br>                           <a href="https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md">https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/homebrew/Formula-Cookbook.md</a><br><br>                           Further help:<br>                           man brew<br>                           brew home<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew update<br>                           Already up-to-date.<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew doctor<br>                           Please note that these warnings are just<br>                           used to help the Homebrew maintainers<br>                           with debugging if you file an issue. If<br>                           everything you use Homebrew for is<br>                           working fine: please don't worry and just<br>                           ignore them. Thanks!<br><br>                           Warning: Some directories in<br>                           /usr/local/share/man aren't writable.<br>                           This can happen if you "sudo make install"<br>                           software that isn't managed<br>                           by Homebrew. If a brew tries to add locale<br>                           information to one of these<br>                           directories, then the install will fail<br>                           during the link step.<br>                           You should probably `chown` them:<br><br>                           /usr/local/share/man/de<br>                           /usr/local/share/man/de/man1<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew tap<br>                           homebrew/science<br>                           ==> Tapping Homebrew/science<br>                           Cloning into<br>                           '/usr/local/Library/Taps/homebrew/homebrew-science'...<br>                           remote: Counting objects: 10005, done.<br>                           remote: Compressing objects: 100% (15/15), done.<br>                           remote: Total 10005 (delta 5), reused 0<br>                           (delta 0), pack-reused 9990<br>                           Receiving objects: 100% (10005/10005), 2.68<br>                           MiB | 1.56 MiB/s, done.<br>                           Resolving deltas: 100% (5584/5584), done.<br>                           Checking connectivity... done.<br>                           Tapped 475 formulae (501 files, 5.1M)<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ brew install<br>                           <a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/therion/therion.rb</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Installing dependencies for therion:<br>                           libpng, freetype, xz, libtool, j<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libpng<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bot">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bot</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           libpng-1.6.17.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libpng/1.6.17: 17<br>                           files, 1.3M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: freetype<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bo">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bo</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           freetype-2.5.5.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/freetype/2.5.5: 60<br>                           files, 2.6M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: xz<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.t">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.t</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring xz-5.2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/xz/5.2.1: 59 files, 1.7M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libtool<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bot">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bot</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           libtool-2.4.6.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ==> Caveats<br>                           In order to prevent conflicts with Apple's<br>                           own libtool we have prepended a "g"<br>                           so, you have instead: glibtool and glibtoolize.<br>                           ==> Summary<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtool/2.4.6: 69<br>                           files, 3.8M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: jpeg<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2</a>.<br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring jpeg-8d.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/jpeg/8d: 18 files, 780K<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: imagemagick<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/imagemagick-6.9.1-1.maveric">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/imagemagick-6.9.1-1.maveric</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           imagemagick-6.9.1-1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/imagemagick/6.9.1-1:<br>                           1442 files, 22M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency:<br>                           lcdf-typetools<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="http://www.lcdf.org/type/lcdf-typetools-2.104.tar.gz">http://www.lcdf.org/type/lcdf-typetools-2.104.tar.gz</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> ./configure<br>                           --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104<br>                           --without-kpaths<br>                           ==> make install<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/lcdf-typetools/2.104:<br>                           29 files, 4.1M, built in 20 seconds<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: cmake<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottl">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottl</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring cmake-3.2.2.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/cmake/3.2.2: 1847<br>                           files, 32M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: boost<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bott">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bott</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring boost-1.57.0.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/boost/1.57.0: 10572<br>                           files, 439M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: fontconfig<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           fontconfig-2.11.1.mavericks.bottle.3.tar.gz<br>                           ==><br>                           /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1/bin/fc-cache<br>                           -frv<br>                           xtherion?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>                           /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1: 448<br>                           files, 3.6M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: szip<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.t">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.t</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring szip-2.1.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/szip/2.1: 9 files, 136K<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: hdf5<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles-science/hdf5-1.8.14.maveric">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles-science/hdf5-1.8.14.maveric</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           hdf5-1.8.14.mavericks.bottle.2.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/hdf5/1.8.14: 174 files, 11M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: libtiff<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bot">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bot</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           libtiff-4.0.3.mavericks.bottle.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/libtiff/4.0.3: 254<br>                           files, 3.8M<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: vtk<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="http://www.vtk.org/files/release/6.2/VTK-6.2.0.tar.gz">http://www.vtk.org/files/release/6.2/VTK-6.2.0.tar.gz</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> cmake -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS_RELEASE=<br>                           -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS_RELEASE= -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PR<br>                           ==> make<br>                           xtherion<br>                           ==> make install<br>                           ==> Caveats<br>                           Even without the --with-qt option, you can<br>                           display native VTK render windows<br>                           from python. Alternatively, you can<br>                           integrate the RenderWindowInteractor<br>                           in PyQt, PySide, Tk or Wx at runtime. Read more:<br>                           import vtk.qt4; help(vtk.qt4) or import<br>                           vtk.wx; help(vtk.wx)<br><br><br>                           Python modules have been installed and<br>                           Homebrew's site-packages is not<br>                           in your Python sys.path, so you will not be<br>                           able to import the modules<br>                           this formula installed. If you plan to<br>                           develop with these modules,<br>                           please run:<br>                           mkdir -p<br>                           /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages<br>                           echo 'import site;<br>                           site.addsitedir("/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages")'<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote>                           /Users/Rob/Library/Python/2.7/lib/python/site-packages/homebrew.pth<br>                           ==> Summary<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/vtk/6.2.0: 3186 files,<br>                           125M, built in 21.4 minutes<br>                           ==> Installing therion dependency: wxmac<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottl">https://homebrew.bintray.com/bottles/wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottl</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> Pouring<br>                           wxmac-3.0.2.mavericks.bottle.9.tar.gz<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/wxmac/3.0.2: 777 files, 41M<br>                           ==> Installing therion<br>                           ==> Downloading<br>                           <a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.16.tar.gz">http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.16.tar.gz</a><br>                           ########################################################################<br>                           100.0%<br>                           ==> make config-macosx<br>                           ==> make<br>                           ==> make install<br>                           ?  /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.16: 6<br>                           files, 4.4M, built in 50 seconds<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherionxtherion<br>                           -bash: xtherionxtherion: command not found<br>                           Roberts-MacBook-Pro:~ Rob$ xtherion<br><br>                           _____________________________________________________<br><br>                           A program named WISH opened and window named<br>                           therion compiler. The Status bar at the<br>                           bottom read ?User interface is not active.<br>                           To activate it open and existing file or<br>                           create a new one."<br>                           When I try to open a file with either the<br>                           Wish file|open or the folder button I am<br>                           unable to open any files in the Demo data<br>                           set - they are all grey and cannot be selected.<br><br>                           I am a first time user. Previously used On<br>                           Station and the Walls. I had data for 3<br>                           major caving areas in Walls totalling about<br>                           50 km of cave. I want to switch it all to<br>                           Therion but if I can?t get the program to<br>                           work then I?ll have to stick with Walls.<br><br>                           Rob Countess<br>                           -------------- next part --------------<br>                           An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>                           URL:<br>                           <<a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20150418/4f466a3f/attachment.htm">http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20150418/4f466a3f/attachment.htm</a>><br><br>                           ------------------------------<br><br>                           _______________________________________________<br>                           Therion mailing list<br>                           <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                           <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br><br>                           End of Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 4<br>                           ***************************************<br><br>                       -------------- next part --------------<br>                       An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>                       URL:<br>                       <<a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20150418/dc6924bd/attachment.htm">http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20150418/dc6924bd/attachment.htm</a>><br><br>                       ------------------------------<br><br>                       _______________________________________________<br>                       Therion mailing list<br>                       <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                       <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br><br>                       End of Therion Digest, Vol 112, Issue 5<br>                       ***************************************<br><br>                   _______________________________________________<br>                   Therion mailing list<br>                   <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>                   <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br>               _______________________________________________<br>               Therion mailing list<br>               <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>               <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br>           _______________________________________________<br>           Therion mailing list<br>           <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>           <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br>       _______________________________________________<br>       Therion mailing list<br>       <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">mailto:Therion@speleo.sk</a>><br>       <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br><br><br>   --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>       -------------------------<br>       Xavier Pennec<br>       Senior Research Scientist / Directeur de recherche<br>       Asclepios project-team, INRIA Sophia-Antipolis<br>       2004 Route des Lucioles, BP93<br>       F-06902 Sophia-Antipolis Cedex, France<br>       +33 4 92 38 76 64 <tel:%2B33%204%2092%2038%2076%2064><br>       +33 6 78 35 16 90 <tel:%2B33%206%2078%2035%2016%2090><br>       <a href="http://www-sop.inria.fr/asclepios/">http://www-sop.inria.fr/asclepios/</a><br>       -------------------------------<br><br><br><br>   _______________________________________________<br>   Therion mailing list<br>   <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><span class=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