<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Ladislav<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please use prober git merging. It is outdated.</div><div class="">I have already done a pull request for the 5.3.16 version</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can happily contribute to my repository</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://github.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/blob/therion/therion.rb" class="">https://github.com/un1x86/homebrew-science/blob/therion/therion.rb</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best</div><div class="">Chris</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 01 Feb 2015, at 13:12, Ladislav Blažek <<a href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz" class="">ladislav@lblazek.cz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi,<div class="">if you need urgently install therion 5.3.16 you can use updated formulae from my github repository- just follow my tutorial on wiki pages <a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/os-tips:osx" class="">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/os-tips:osx</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I will try to send pull request but need to check guidelines.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">L.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">1. 2. 2015 v 12:55, Martin Sluka <<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com" class="">martinsluka@mac.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">if you run from Terminal command “xtherion” what’s happen?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have problem to open thconfig file. But if I rename thconfig to a.thconfig then it is possible to open.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">m.s.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">1. 2. 2015 v 9:25, Yones Shariatmadari <<a href="mailto:yonessh2@gmail.com" class="">yonessh2@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">restore mac os 10.10.1 and try to install therion again.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">all of program install and work good but therion doesn't run!!!</div><div class="">also loch work very well.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Patching</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">patching file loch/lxData.cxx</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Hunk #1 succeeded at 540 (offset 5 lines).</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Hunk #2 succeeded at 582 (offset 5 lines).</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">patching file loch/Makefile</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make config-macosx</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make install</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-family: 'Apple Color Emoji';" class="">🍺</span> /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.15: 6 files, 4.4M, built in 2.1 minutes</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Macs-MacBook-Pro:/ yonesshariatmadari$ xtherion</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">/usr/local/bin/xtherion: line 3: exec: wish: not foundw</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Martin Sluka<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com" target="_blank" class="">martinsluka@mac.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Instalation on Yosemite:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- installed MacTex</div><div class="">- installed (but still version 5.3.15 only!) Therion according recipe on wiki from Láďa Blažek successfully :</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Martin-iMac:~ martinsluka1$ brew install<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ladislavb/homebrew-science/master/therion.rb" target="_blank" class="">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ladislavb/homebrew-science/master/therion.rb</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">######################################################################## 100,0%</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Installing dependencies for therion:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">fontconfig, vtk</b></span></div><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Installing therion dependency:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">fontconfig</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Downloading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.yosemite.bottle.3.tar.gz" target="_blank" class="">https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/fontconfig-2.11.1.yosemite.bottle.3.tar.gz</a></b></div></span><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">######################################################################## 100,0%</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Pouring fontconfig-2.11.1.yosemite.bottle.3.tar.gz</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>/usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1/bin/fc-cache -frv</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><object goomoji="1f37a" alt="🍺" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle; max-height: 24px;" class="" data="cid:1f37a@goomoji.gmail" type="application/x-apple-msg-attachment"></object> /usr/local/Cellar/fontconfig/2.11.1: 448 files, 3,6M</div><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Installing therion dependency:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">vtk</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Downloading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/science/vtk-6.1.0_1.yosemite.bottle.tar.gz" target="_blank" class="">https://downloads.sf.net/project/machomebrew/Bottles/science/vtk-6.1.0_1.yosemite.bottle.tar.gz</a></b></div></span><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">######################################################################## 100,0%</div><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Pouring vtk-6.1.0_1.yosemite.bottle.tar.gz</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Caveats</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Even without the --with-qt option, you can display native VTK render windows</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">from python. Alternatively, you can integrate the RenderWindowInteractor</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">in PyQt, PySide, Tk or Wx at runtime. Read more:</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""> import vtk.qt4; help(vtk.qt4) or import vtk.wx; help(vtk.wx)</div></span><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Summary</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><object goomoji="1f37a" alt="🍺" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle; max-height: 24px;" class="" data="cid:1f37a@goomoji.gmail" type="application/x-apple-msg-attachment"></object> /usr/local/Cellar/vtk/6.1.0_1: 3005 files, 123M</div></span><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Installing<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">therion</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Downloading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.15.tar.gz" target="_blank" class="">http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.15.tar.gz</a></b></div></span><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Already downloaded: /Library/Caches/Homebrew/therion-5.3.15.tar.gz</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Downloading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.lblazek.cz/osx_vtk6.patch" target="_blank" class="">http://www.lblazek.cz/osx_vtk6.patch</a></b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">######################################################################## 100,0%</div><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Patching</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">patching file loch/lxData.cxx</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Hunk #1 succeeded at 540 (offset 5 lines).</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Hunk #2 succeeded at 582 (offset 5 lines).</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">patching file loch/Makefile</div></span><span class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make config-macosx</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make</b></div></span><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make install</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><object goomoji="1f37a" alt="🍺" style="margin: 0px 0.2ex; vertical-align: middle; max-height: 24px;" class="" data="cid:1f37a@goomoji.gmail" type="application/x-apple-msg-attachment"></object> /usr/local/Cellar/therion/5.3.15: 6 files, 4,4M, built in 2.5 minutes</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">Martin-iMac:~ martinsluka1$ xtherion</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">1. 2. 2015 v 0:22, Martin Sluka <<a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com" target="_blank" class="">martinsluka@mac.com</a>>:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="h5"><div style="word-wrap: break-word;" class="">Something wrong is there:<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">31. 1. 2015 v 20:43, Christian Sandrini <<a href="mailto:christian.sandrini@me.com" target="_blank" class="">christian.sandrini@me.com</a>>:</div><br class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">For now therion still needs VTK5. While by default it tries to install VTK6.</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Installing<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(52, 189, 38);" class=""><b class="">therion</b></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Downloading<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.15.tar.gz" target="_blank" class="">http://therion.speleo.sk/downloads/therion-5.3.15.tar.gz</a></b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">######################################################################## 100,0%</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make config-macosx</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(83, 48, 225);" class=""><b class="">==></b></span><b class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>make</b></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>^</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">1 error generated.</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">make[1]: *** [.././loch/lxSetup.o] Error 1</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">make: *** [loch/loch] Error 2</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(195, 55, 32);" class="">READ THIS</span>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class=""><a href="http://git.io/brew-troubleshooting" target="_blank" class="">http://git.io/brew-troubleshooting</a></span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class="">If reporting this issue please do so at (not Homebrew/homebrew):</div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo;" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://github.com/homebrew/homebrew-science/issues" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/homebrew/homebrew-science/issues</a></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; 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