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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>The attached files demonstrate what I think you were
describing in your original message. All of the changes I made to your
files have the tag #B20141112 added to them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I have modified each elevation map to use a different
projection. Of course it is ridiculous with this particular example,
being essentially straight, but it is the sort of thing one might do for a Tee
shaped cave as you originally described.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I had to change the projection of each elevation
scrap, and this is not something you would usually do after it has been drawn –
of course the shape of a scrap depends very much on the projection, and to
change the projection later on will usually render it meaningless (although
Therion can pull off some amazing morphing).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I added debug all to label the scraps, stations and
observe the morphing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I also took the opportunity to test the transparent
background that I was having trouble with in my datasets – it works!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of
Bruce<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 12 November 2014 7:29 p.m.<br>
To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">List for Therion users</st1:PersonName>'<br>
Subject: Re: [Therion] Multiple elevation maps</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think I see your problem. I will potter around
with the example you sent<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>to demonstrate what I think you want, but maybe not
tonight.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>For now, you can avoid the 'object not found' error by
double clicking on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the survey or map item on the right-hand side of
XTherion. For example it<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>places...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>select AllElevations.map@PracticeCave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>...at the cursor position in the th-config file.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>And, if you select multiple maps of one projection,
they will all be used in<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the export for that projection.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Plan is a projection<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Extended is a projection (developed or straightened
out elevation) see<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#projections_plan_elevation_extend<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>ed_and_none <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-Elevation is a default for [elevation 000 deg] ie
'looking north'. So<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>assuming there are 360 degrees in a circle there are
360 different elevation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>projections.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>If all your elevations have the same projection, all
the elevation maps will<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>end up in the same pdf (unless you modify the
th-config between runs or use<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>multiple th-configs as Rowena suggests).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I will modify your example to demonstrate using two
elevation projections<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>(without resorting to indexes). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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