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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rowena<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think these are both already features of
Therion. I think you are referring to what is controlled by ‘overlap’, at least
for map exports – for altas the concept is the same, but the effect is slightly
different. From the Therion Book…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-style:italic'>overlap
<value> <units> </span></font></i><i><font size=2 color=navy
face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode";
color:navy;font-style:italic'>◃</span></font></i><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-style:italic'> set overlap size in paper units in the atlas mode or map margin
in the map mode (M, A; default: 1 cm)<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For map exports it is the margin that
Therion adds outside of the rectangle that exactly bounds the cave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For transparent backgrounds, you should be
able to use, within a defined layout<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:36.0pt'><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-style:italic'>color map-bg transparent<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In 5.3.5 there was a bug, whereby, as a
work around, you had to put the statement as part of an export command, ie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-style:italic'>export map \<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-style:italic'>-layout-color map-bg transparent \<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><i><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-style:italic'>-output cave.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>and this worked quite well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Unfortunately last few versions at least,
I have not been able to get transparent backgrounds to work, and so it has
constrained the quality of some of our recent maps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Any updates on workarounds to get
transparent backgrounds to work greatly appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rowena_l@tpg.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 4 November 2014
1:16 p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">List
for Therion users</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Therion] Customising
map layout</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:5.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica'>I have done lots of playing with the redefinition of map
layouts in Therion (actually <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">TeX</st1:place></st1:State>).
I have found that there is a border around the pdf images which are included,
resulting in significant white space. I would rather have smaller borders in my
pdfs that are generated in Therion and then included in the final map.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:5.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica'>Is there a way to make the borders smaller, or have the
white space transparent in the included maps (using such things as
"\legendbox{0}{100}{NW}{\loadpicture{/absolute/path/to/file}}"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:5.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:5.5pt;
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