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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>JP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As a hack, how about temporarily making
the survey station near the debris an entrance. Then an export to a
cave-list will give you the coordinates directly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Eg<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>export cave-list \<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> -location on \<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> -surveys off \<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> -output
../Output/MiddleEarthcaves.html<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Or of you use .kml extension you get a
Google Earth file directly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m assuming you want the easiest
way to walk to the surface location directly above the cave, and have a gps
unit into which you can enter these as way points. Re-reading you
question that might not be what you want.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There might be other approaches using
continuation flags, and or obtaining the coordinates from an sql export or from
a model export to .3d and use Aven to obtain coordinates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>McLendonJP@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 3 June 2014 9:17
a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> therion@speleo.sk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Therion] How to locate
points on the surface above a surveystation?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I would appreciate any suggestions
regarding the best (easiest, quickest) way to locate points on the surface that
directly overlie survey stations in the cave. For example, suppose we find a
place in the cave with surface debris and would like to examine the surface
directly above for an entrance or dig. The ideal solution would allow me to
input surface survey data in the field using a laptop and would generate an
azimuth and distance from the last station to the desired point. I've sometimes
overlayed the cave map or lineplot onto a topo or satellite image to identify
the general area, but I'm looking for a much more precise
solution. Currently, I survey overland from the entrance toward the
area overlaying the station I want to get above. As I get close,
I temporarily rename the last surface survey station to the name of the
station in the cave below. This tells Therion that I've closed a loop and
it gives me the closure error in all three axes. The x and y axis tell me
how close I am, and I can guesstimate an approximate azimuth for the next shot
to get closer. This eventually gets me close, but it is subject to blunders and
overly time consuming. Is there a better way, perhaps through some
function of Therion with which I am unfamiliar? Thanks for any ideas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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