<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://344/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Last line of xvi file:<div><br></div><div>set XVIgrid {-1597.48031496 -19633.6220472 78.7401574803 0.0 0.0 78.7401574803 492.0 268.0}</div><div><br></div><div>First two number are too big.</div><div><br></div><div>The same in th2 file - first 4 lines:</div><div><br></div><div><div>encoding utf-8</div><div>##XTHERION## xth_me_area_adjust -7709.75 -4195.57 46258.49 25173.45</div><div>##XTHERION## xth_me_area_zoom_to 50</div><div>##XTHERION## xth_me_image_insert {6335.80417323 1 1.0} {21161.1492913 408.13} ptopoQuackery/408-SurfaceTension_p.xvi 0 {}</div></div><div><br></div><div>The second line shows too big size of area and 4th line too big coordinates. </div><div><br></div><div>BTW, zoom factor 50 is too low for such xvi file - line 3. try to change it to 400 for beginning.</div><div><br></div><div>You may edit all this parameters in th2 file manually in xtherion map editor.</div><div><br></div><div>m.s.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Oct 5, 2013 v 9:25 AM, Bruce <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="blue" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1" style="page: Section1; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">That would make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">More likely that it is particular users accidentally draw near the edges of the screen when zoomed out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">That would explain why some cave survey bookers have this more often!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">In the example I sent, the stray lines are near the end I expect, lines 504 to 506.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Have not tried it yet – in middle of something else – if I delete those three lines, the XVIGRID extent will still be very large.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Where can I find the syntax description so that I can intelligently edit it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">There are 8 numbers in a row.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "> </span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a> [mailto:therion-<a href="mailto:bounces@speleo.sk">bounces@speleo.sk</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Martin Sluka<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, 5 October 2013 7:18 p.m.<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>List for Therion users<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Therion] drawing files with unnecessary large extents created by therion/topparser</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Bruce, <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">this is typical for PocketTopo and lines created by mistake, if one didn't switched pen to moving mode before transport of PDA and PocketTopo created a "missed" line somewhere in border of drawing area. It could be just one very short and practically invisible line. Try open the xvi file by plain text editor and find such a lose line.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">m.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Oct 5, 2013 v 5:29 AM, Bruce <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">There is something about the drawing extents that is not right. Not sure if it is just a gap in my Xtherion knowledge, or if there is something unusual about how TopParser (and sometimes the therion convert) creates the files.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Can I fix it by manually changing something after the file is created?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Most times this does not happen with Therions converter.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "> </span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; widows: 2; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">Martin Sluka - Studio Sluka<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">prodej Hahnemühle DFA <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">tisk fotografií a reprodukcí<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">Na Rovnosti 2692/21<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">130 00 Praha 3<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">tel.: +420 603513640<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">mail:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:martinsluka@mac.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">martinsluka@mac.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; ">web:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.piezografie.cz" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.piezografie.cz</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica; "> </span></font></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; 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