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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>With the addition of a third draughtsperson to our
project, whose name comes early in the alphabet, and who has clearly drawn much
less than us two oldies, it’s become apparent that 5.3.11 sorts
cartographers names alphabetically rather than by length of centreline
associated with their drawings.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Not sure if this was the case with 5.3.10, but
certainly the default sort order for explo-length and topo-length changed with
5.3.11 as described here<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#why_do_peoples_names_sort_alphabetically_when_they_used_to_sort_by_length_of_cave_explored_and_surveyed">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#why_do_peoples_names_sort_alphabetically_when_they_used_to_sort_by_length_of_cave_explored_and_surveyed</a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To make matters worse, I thought I would display only
the ‘top 2’ draughtspeople, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>  </span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>statistics carto
2    <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>and it dumped my name because it is alphabetically
towards the end of the alphabet, despite having drawn most of the cave (well
maybe second most, but at least 100x more length than the newcomer).  I
may have a bias due to conflict of interest, but it seems like an
unsatisfactory situation to me that the ‘top two’ cartographers is
based on alphabetical rank rather than drawing rank.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is it possible to make the carto statistics syntax
and behaviour consistent with explo and topo statistics in 5.3.12?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A sample layout of mine below shows how they all work
together, and how what I am requesting might fit in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>layout LayoutStatisticsNormal <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>#-----------------------  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics explo
all      
          #
all/off/number    # <u>names</u> of explorers, or 'number' most
significant explorers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics explo-length hide  #
on/off/hide        # adds each persons <u>exploration
length</u> and toggles sort type<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics topo
all     
            #
all/off/number    # <u>names</u> of survey team members <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics topo-length hide   #
on/off/hide       # adds each persons <u>survey
length</u> and toggles sort type<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics carto
all       
         #
all/off/number    # <u>names</u> of authors  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;font-weight:bold'>  statistics
carto -length hide  # on/off/hide       #
request to add each persons <u>carto length</u> and toggle sort type<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>  statistics copyright all  
      # all/off/number   # <u>names</u>
of copyrights   <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>endlayout LayoutStatisticsNormal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-NZ style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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