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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think we each lost each others meaning
in translation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Maps do not need to
be children of the surveys they are based on, but the way Topparser currently
creates them they are. Therion does allow them to be outside of the
‘survey’ ‘endsurvey’ block, and indeed outside of the
survey.th file altogether.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree it is a ‘feature’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Therion allows maps to be tied to the hierarchy
of the surveys and it also allows maps to be completely independent of the
survey hierarchy, but it depends on how one constructs the dataset.
Despite wanting to for a year or two, I have not yet got around to constructing
an ‘independent’ dataset, so I’m hardly an authority –
just repeating what I read in the Therion Book and the wiki.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m confused by the case you
describe below – having 2 nearby caves each with a name ‘map1’
would be a problem if one used maps that were defined independently. But
surely they would sensibly be named CaveAMap and CaveBMap? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The reason I like the idea of independent map
structures is that, when for example Cave A and Cave B are large cave systems
with 2 or 3 levels of nested surveys each, and the distant reaches of these two
caves that started out far part are now close together, and one wants a map
that consists only of the last 300m of each cave where they are close together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With maps dependant on surveys you need<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Select <a
href="mailto:submapA@subsurveyA.surveyA">submapA@subsurveyA.surveyA</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Select <a
href="mailto:submapB@subsurveyB.surveyB">submapB@subsurveyB.surveyB</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With maps independent on surveys you only
need<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Select submapA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Select submapB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The benefits are greater (if I am correct)
the more nested levels (I have not yet had to go beyond three) and the more
surveys and indeed the more caves that are converging. There is a similar (but
partially opposite) effect on the ‘station-names’ suffixes required
when drawing scraps.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now I am rambling…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Sluka<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, 29 July 2013 8:07
p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">List
for Therion users</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Therion] Topparser
response</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Jul 29, 2013 v 9:48 AM, Bruce <<a href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz">bruce@tomo.co.nz</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:6.5pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;float:none;
word-spacing:0px'>and indeed outside of the</span></span></font><a
href="http://survey.th/" style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 2;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:
0px'><font size=1 color=purple face=Arial><span style='font-size:6.5pt;
font-family:Arial;color:purple'>survey.th</span></font></a><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=1 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
6.5pt;font-family:Arial'><span style='orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;
widows: 2;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
float:none;word-spacing:0px'> </span></font></span><font size=1
face=Arial><span style='font-size:6.5pt;font-family:Arial'>file altogether.</span></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It prevent mistake
in case:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>map1 in one system
and map1 in another system<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>map1@surveyA is
different from map1@surveyB<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It is feature not
bug!!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>m.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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