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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>> </span></font>Thinking there must be a
solution to this, I searched the wiki, and found it (Thanks Bruce!). <font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Footleg. In truth my wiki
edits are selfishly motivated. They are my personal reminders, and the
wiki is a good place to store them. Also an attempt to entice new users,
but that has not been successful (yet) in my local community. And also
hopefully people will point out when I have not found the best way to do
things.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>I can use the
-station-names option on my scraps in the sketch to say what the full name of
the station should be. But my station names do not need a prefix (it is already
set from the xvi file by the editor) and with a bit of experimentation I
discovered that to omit the prefix I have to put a pair of double-quotes as the
prefix. This works, but is there a neater way to do it?<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> </span></font>e.g. -station-names ""
@ShortDryWay.swildons<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>means my station with -name 3.3 will be treated as
3.3@ShortDryWay.swildons in the scrap and this is what my station in the
complete cave centreline data is named so it works. It just seems unintuitive
to have to give a blank prefix this way. <font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The way I was advised to do it way back
was with square brackets []. Not sure if there is a reason why they are preferred
over “”. I should have made that clearer in the drawing
checklist page. I have hinted at it here. </span></font><a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless?s%5b%5d=station&s%5b%5d=names">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless?s[]=station&s[]=names</a>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Search for [<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>Bruce's example also
includes author and copyright options on the scraps. How does Therion use
these? Or are they just allowed on the scrap options but not used in any
generated output?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Copyright information is displayed in pdf
headers in the same way as surveyors and explorers if you <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>While reading Bruce's
excellent advice pages on data structures I spotted some places where more
recent developments or ways I work make things easier since the section was
written. <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am deeply embarrassed that I have not
been able to finish the ‘organisation’ pages. It is because I
have realized that the system I have adopted does not scale well to large
systems. The realization is coming to me that it is good in some
circumstances, but I need to clarify what those circumstances are. I have
an inkling of a better system, but I need to put it to some use before I write
more (and find time…). Still, I think some of the finer detail
remains valid regardless of the overall way data is organized. People are
welcome to add to and improve ‘my’ pages.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>So I've added a tip on
getting data off PDA via memory card, and a link to Andrew's TopParser
application to this wiki page: <a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless#data_transfer_from_pockettopo_to_therion">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless#data_transfer_from_pockettopo_to_therion</a><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Footleg. I think your advice
re the memory card is not the way intended by Beat. From memory the
better way is to store data to main memory and make sure you have a memory card
installed. Pockettopo will automatically save backups regularly to the
memory card, and makes sure it is never writing two files simultaneously.
That way, only one of the pair of files may be being written to, and thus
potentially corrupt at the instant the pda is smashed to pieces. Also,
you have two copies of the file, so more chance of recovery. From time to time
I have checked and opened the backup files (when the pda is in a safe place)
and it seems they are usable files created transparently without any user
intervention. (Just make sure the pda OS recognizes there is a card
installed).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Re using the memory card to transfer data.
In the normal course of events, my preference is to leave the card permanently
sealed up in the device. Plugging in a usb cable or using bluetooth is
quicker and less likely to damage the seals (Our pdas get lots of grit, mud and
submersion each trip). Granted there will be variations between devices
and user preferences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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