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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Hello Bruce,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I think we're suffering the same inflated
PDFs.<BR>I attach a small project which uses 3 very tiny PNGs as
input,<BR>resulting into a PDF which is at least 3x the size in MB.<BR>With
large bitmaps, a PDF is produced which some computers cannot handle anymore
because of size.<BR>We also use Therion version 5.3.10.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>For the "Fuchslabyrinth" Project, we have an
additional issue which is at least as painful:<BR>Overlapping sketches (even if
the inserted PNGs are transparent)<BR>lead to a PDF output, where passages in
the overlapping area are concealed.<BR>Current workaround is to crop the PNGs
razorsharp at the passage boundaries,<BR>but that is not always
possible.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>See attached mini-project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>If you or the Therion developers have a "fix" for
either issue,<BR>we'd greatly appreciate receiving it!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Cheers,<BR>Michael.</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=bruce@tomo.co.nz href="mailto:bruce@tomo.co.nz">Bruce</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=therion@speleo.sk
href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk">'List for Therion users'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Therion] background sketch
inserted multiple times</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ>Michael<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>I think you just added
a wiki item on Fuchslabyrinth caves where it says Therions bitmap morphing
feature is being used.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>I am intrigued because
in 2008 or 2009 we were starting to use this feature, then we were delayed,
and by the time we got back to experimenting there was a bug in the next
version of Therion whereby the sketches were inserted into the pdf outputs
multiple times, taking inordinate time to compile and making the pdf files
very large, 100’s of megabytes in many cases. Stacho acknowledged the
bug and I think some change was made in 5.3.9, but it did not fix the problem
for us.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>Described here
</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-NZ><A
href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.therion/2680/match=sketches">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.therion/2680/match=sketches</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>I have tried again with
a couple of different files using 5.3.10, in one trivial case a 283kB sketch
inserted in a small map produced an 11MB pdf file (the pdf without the sketch
is 300kB).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>So I am wondering how
you are making it workable?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ>Either;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><![if !supportLists]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT size=1 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>something in our custom
metapost or layouts is causing the error for us and you are not experiencing
this bug, or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><![if !supportLists]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT size=1 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>you are using an old
version of Therion in which this feature was bug free,
or<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"
class=MsoNormal><![if !supportLists]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">-<FONT size=1 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>you are putting up with
very large output files, even for very small portions of your overall
project<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-NZ>I’m interested in your
comments.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=EN-NZ>Bruce<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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