<html><body><div>You are right, Bruce. This is good example. But in fact there were 3 or better 4 surveying trips in this surveying trip. I such case it is natural to divide one day survey trip to particulate surveys. ;)</div><div><br></div><div>m.<br><br>On Jun 15, 2012, at 09:57 AM, Bruce <bruce@tomo.co.nz> wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote" lang="EN-US"><div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;" style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;"><Martin wrote</span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;" style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;">></span></span>The original idea of Therion is that "survey" represents one survey trip. <span color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy;" style="color: navy;"><span style="color:navy" data-mce-style="color: navy;">…</span></span> So it is not the best idea to manipulate with surveys. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;" style="color: navy; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: navy;"> </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial" size="2" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;" style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I agree Martin, one survey file, one trip. However we just did a survey of three small multi-entrance caves and overland surveys over a couple of days. In hindsight we were a bit messy in practice as we surveyed into one cave and out of another entrance and into another cave, then back out to the first cave etc etc. </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial" size="2" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;" style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">What I found was that Therion could not (or I could not get Therion to) adequately resolve the statistics for the caves individually until I split some of those surveys into two or three. It also would not separate surface survey statistics from cave statistics (but I think that is a bug). Statistics are resolved correctly for maps but not for survey-list.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial" size="2" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;" style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">So as a last resort I cut the survey trips into multiple surveys/files. If I had drawn the scraps before doing this I would have had a difficult job patching it all back together. An unusual situation perhaps, but one where manipulation of the survey files was able to lay a better foundation on which to build scraps and maps.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span face="Arial" size="2" color="navy" data-mce-style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;" style="color: navy; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><span style="font-size:
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Bruce</span></span></p></div></div><div class="_stretch">_______________________________________________<br> Therion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk" data-mce-href="mailto:Therion@speleo.sk">Therion@speleo.sk</a><br> <a href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion" data-mce-href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>