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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Bruce, Andrew, et al,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I noticed your posts from February about this topic, which
I also happen to be struggling with at the moment. I'm trying to produce
two maps, one showing fixed survey stations and another showing
continuations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In particular, I'm a bit confused about the subtle
difference between the 'mark', 'flags', and 'station' commands in centreline,
and the various point commands in scrap. How are these related in
metapost, and how can I distinguish between them in selecting what is
displayed? As with Bruce's "concrete water trough" below, I'd rather not
have to use the "continuation" flag just to get the text to display. Any
suggestions?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have made some progress by using the "continuation"
flag for both my needs, but it's not ideal, and I had trouble getting it to
work. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm currently using the </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> mark <station> fixed and </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2> station <station> "text" continuation
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>in the centreline, but it also seems to work for the point
continuation in the scrap. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In the thconfig layout I've used:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> symbol-hide group
all<BR> symbol-show line wall<SPAN class=059515221-26112011> # seems to be
needed to force display of the cave itself</SPAN><BR> symbol-show point
station:painted<BR> symbol-show point station:fixed<BR> symbol-show
point station:natural<BR> symbol-show point flag:continuation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=059515221-26112011><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>To
display the text I've then used, as per thbook. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">code metapost<BR><BR> def
p_continuation(expr pos,theta,sc,al) =<SPAN class=059515221-26112011>
...etc</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>I'd like to be able to use a different symbol to the
question mark for my fixed stations, but I don't know how to do
that.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=059515221-26112011>To get the points to display, I
found I had to use the -stations option in the 'scrap' command, even if the
scrap included the station already! I'm not sure why this is so, but it
works. It also gave me an idea to create an "overlay" scrap, that includes
nothing other than the -stations option (plus a couple of point stations to
calibrate the scale and avoid the "scrap too large" error). I've got two
such scrap files, one called "fixed" and the other called "continuations", and
it seems to be working. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>In my source
file, I've added two map definitions </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011> map
Map_mFixedStations <BR>
UF_mFixed<BR> preview below UF_m1<BR>
endmap</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>and</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011> map
Map_Continuations <BR>
UF_mContinuations<BR> preview below
UF_m1<BR> endmap<BR></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>where UF_m1 is the master map of the whole cave,
UF_mFixed is a map containing the Fixed point scrap, and UF_mContinuations is
the map containing the Continuations scrap. It might be that because of
the preview below, I no longer need symbol-hide all, but I haven't tried that
yet. </DIV></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>In this way I can select the various different points
to show in each overlay. The limitation is that I can't have a station
that is both a fixed station and a continuation; and I have to manually search
my whole cave survey to manually identify all of the fixed points and list them
in the scrap. It would be nicer to have Therion display these
automatically using symbol-show! </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>The attached shows my "proof of concept" output (it's a
bit rough and still incomplete) and I've currently turned off the text output
because my points are too close together at this scale (1:4000) and the texts
collide. The fixed stations without the question mark have no "stations"
command and no text. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=059515221-26112011>- Ben</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></DIV></SPAN>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> therion-bounces@speleo.sk
[mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bruce<BR><B>Sent:</B>
10 February 2011 19:28<BR><B>To:</B> 'List for Therion
users'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Therion] symbol-show fixed
points<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks
Stacho<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think you are
pointing me in the direction of answering my second question; redefinition of
each type of point that I might be interested in. ie p_sink, p_doline,
p_entrance. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(Admittedly I have
not delved into the code to see how it currently works, and I should perhaps
educate myself some more before asking.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Some of my points
would have all three (or more) flags set (sink, doline, entrance). Are
they just layered one above the other in the output? So there may be three
copies of the (identical) text layered one above the other if each definition
included printing of the text? When I have time I can look into the
TMPDIR outputs and perhaps figure it out.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Anyway I
digress. My most pressing need and interest is (the first question in my
original post) adding the text output to fixed points that do <U>not</U> have
any other flags set. The ones that show up in <st1:place
w:st="on">Loch</st1:place> as red circles that do not have doline or other
flag set, but do not show up <U>with labels</U> included in the pdf
output. Is there a p_fixed?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bruce<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
therion-bounces@speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Stacho Mudrak<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 10 February 2011 10:48
p.m.<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">List for Therion users</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Therion] symbol-show fixed
points</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Well, it is quite complicated, but it is
possible. When point symbol is exported from centerline, system _text
attribute is set in metapost. To dipsplay label, use code
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P><PRE><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">code metapost<BR>
def p_continuation(expr pos,theta,sc,al) =<BR>
<BR>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></PRE>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">etc...<BR>shown in:<BR><BR><A
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/samples.doc/60.html">http://therion.speleo.sk/samples.doc/60.html</A><BR><BR>But
you will need to redefine corresponding symbol (e.g. p_sink). In that code,
you can also control, whether symbol and/or text should be displayed. Feel
free to ask more, if this does not help you.<BR><BR>Regards,
S.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 7 February 2011 21:10, Bruce <<A
href="mailto:dangle@tomo.co.nz">dangle@tomo.co.nz</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
All</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve been
trying to understand symbol-show and symbol-hide a little better as they
relate to pdf outputs. How do I display the text associated with fixed
points?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I
have some map objects defined for various caves in a large system. These
are comprised of scrap drawings.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I also have a map
object with the minor surface features nearby, such as sinks, dolines,
isolated entrances and significant navigational features such as fence posts
or trees (for example). This is comprised of a survey only (mostly fixed
points, and no scrap drawings) however and uses flags such as doline or sink,
and most points have a text string associated ie.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> fix
15 2521640
6042938
581 10 10 30 </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">station 15
"Concrete water trough"</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I
would like to show the caves as outlines with all the rest of their symbology
turned off, and the surface features with each of the points labelled with
appropriate symbol and associated text. This is for an area map, at
scales of say 1:5000 or 1:10,000</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can turn
the cave symbols off with symbol-hide statements, and so far I think that is
working out OK.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> However…</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show
point flag:entrance \</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show point flag:sink \
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show point flag:spring \
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show point flag:doline \
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show point flag:dig
\
</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The above
layout statements cause the special entrance and sink etc symbols to be
displayed, AND show the text string associated with the point. These are
not displayed by default as far as I can tell, but these statements rectify
that.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
-layout-symbol-show group all</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">And the
group all statement has pretty much the same effect in a more comprehensive
and compact format.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> However none of the above
enables me to display the text for my “Concrete water trough” example
above.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is
always just a cross with no text, or with ‘15’ if debug station-names is
on. It shows up in <st1:place w:st="on">Loch</st1:place>, but not in
pdfs.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> So,
how do I display the text associated with fixed
points?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there a
need for…</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
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-layout-symbol-show point fixed </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">… or
something similar?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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size=2><SPAN lang=EN-NZ
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Also, sometimes I would like
to display the point symbols (for the likes of the above flags) OR the text
strings associated with the points, but not both at once. Is there a way
of doing this? </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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