Bruce, thanks for those links.<div><br><div>I am going to retry getting everything to compile in 5.3.6 and see where that gets me. As for the encoding utf-8... i have been working on this across windows and linux systems, sometimes in VI, sometimes in the therion texteditor, and sometimes in windows text editors. This is probably not a great practice but I work across multiple systems during the day and i always want to try and get something done on this map :) I'll make sure i add those encodings to the docs.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I agree that the namespace references are a little cumbersome, but it seemed like a nice way to keep my survey dates differentiated. We have not been using splay shots either so it was easy to automatically incorporate everything into the centerline.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your help!</div><div><br></div><div>will</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Bruce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dangle@tomo.co.nz">dangle@tomo.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Hi Will</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I really like it that you have put in
place a system, and documented it in your <a href="http://DDC.map.th" target="_blank">DDC.map.th</a> file and the other
*.<a href="http://map.th" target="_blank">map.th</a> files. It might be the first time I have seen a detailed
description of a structured way to organize Therion data (apologies to those
who have shared their strategies with me in the past). The therion wiki
goes part way to achieving this, but does not yet describe a structured
scalable system. Well, I am trying to put something together based on
what I have stumbled on and cobbled together, but it has been a few years in
the making – mostly it is hidden in the datasets I am working on –
some of it has found it’s way onto the wiki </span></font><a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=do" target="_blank">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=do</a><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">So unfortunately I have not absorbed the
niceties of the system your data uses in 5 minutes, but I’ll make a few hasty
comments. It seems to be a little complicated, but that may just be
because I have not yet figured out the greater purpose… Forgive me if I
am teaching you to suck eggs, but as I haven’t yet solved the problem I’ll
just go through and point out the ‘interesting’ bits in your data.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I notice you are using therion 5.3.
Although the ‘stable version’ it is quite old.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Therion 5.3.6 is much better I think.
That said, the dataset will not compile on my system. I get an error;</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">D:\Program Files\Therion\therion.exe:
error -- ../././scraps/DDC_20101106_1.th2 [8] -- zero scale real length</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">That suggests to me that the scrap has not
been scaled properly (or that 5.3 is indeed better).</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">It has three points but no walls, so is
bound to cause trouble. Adding walls did not help however.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">On looking at this scrap I notice the
names are quite cumbersome;</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">-name a3@20101106.center.DDC</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">If indeed the .center.DDC are ‘required’
in the th2 file then the system may be a little cumbersome. Also the station
names are repeated in the id box. This is not an error, but does seem
redundant. Therion does not require it.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Some of your files do not have the first
line;</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">encoding utf-8</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">In the past if I have excluded this then
my Windows operating system and text editors tend to screw up my data files, or
not work at all. Possibly therion throws a fit if it’s missing- I
forget. Of course the confusing thing is that Xtherion hides the encoding
line, so unless you use a different editor you might not have noticed.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I notice that although you have quite a
few drawing files the dataset only tries to invoke one of them. I have
not tried to make the others work, but I have noticed that if I comment out
references to DDC_20101106 then I can get nice pdfs, lists and models.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">So in short, with a few minutes fiddling I
cannot repeat the same error you describe, I suspect 5.3.6 is better at
trapping errors and that there is a problem with the way you are making your
scraps or a problem with the way the system you have adopted is trying to tie the
components together.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Anyone else?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bruce</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:therion-bounces@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion-bounces@speleo.sk</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Will Urbanski<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:41
p.m.<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:therion@speleo.sk" target="_blank">therion@speleo.sk</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Therion] strange scrap
plotting</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have been drafting a map using therion but my export is generating a
very strange PDF. All my data (line plot) plots correctly in the map, but my
scraps are all tiling on a specific station. For instance, say I have
stations A1, A2, A3, and A4 labeled in a scrap. For some reason Therion is
plotting all the station & additional points (A2,A3,A4,stalagmites, etc)
exactly at the same location as A1. My scraps also contain walls but the walls
don't plot. I have a friend who is very talented with Therion and he has looked
at my project and is not sure why it is not working correctly, thus I am not
sure if this is a bug or something that I have screwed up. My entire project is
attached to this email (thconfig in /config/, A1 is in the lower left-hand
corner of map). Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.</span></font></p>
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