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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>One
of the things I struggle with as a new user of Therion is the documentation. In
this case I found nothing about projected elevations in any examples of on the
wiki. <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I also
learned how to do elevations (and many other things) based on answers from this
forum. For better or worse I have figured it is up to the beginners who
are struggling (me quite a lot of the time) and the users who have some insight
(me sometimes) to write the instructions and make corrections in the wiki.
They are likely to better know the needs of those who are trying to learn.
I’d rather the therion authors continue to put their time into therion authoring!
There are still many features that need fixing and implementing before therion
could be called a mature project (even if it is leading the pack in my
opinion). Agree the therion book is lacking a bit of clarity on projected
elevations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>I
am happy to write a general introduction/walk through and provide an example
project for the wiki if someone can set me up with an account to allow me to
edit wiki pages.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Excellent.
See the contacts on </span></font><a
href="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion" target="_blank"
title="http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion">http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion</a>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>for access.<br>
</span></font><a href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=tbe">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=tbe</a>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>and</span></font> <a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=tfc">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=tfc</a>
<font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>would be a good place to insert such and example if I can
invite you to edit someone elses page </span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> (You are welcome to edit my pages if you think it’s
better there </span></font><a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=do">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=do</a><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>)<br>
I have the wiki open and refer directly to it most times when I’m drawing
more than just a small amount.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>></span></font>I
do wonder why if I am declaring everything in the map / endmap block in the th
file, and I give that map a name there, then why is it not possible to specify
that map by name in the thconfig file export, rather than have to repeat the
map type information and have therion try to work out what map from my th file
to use to generate that pdf? Just a suggestion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good
question. The sort where I learn by researching the answer. I guess the
answer is that the ‘source’, ‘select’ and ‘export’
statements are distinct from each other.<br>
When it comes to exporting you are really just saying what type of output you
want, and what its name will be, and which layout options to use. As far
as which maps to export goes, that is chosen with the select statement. A
mistake that I often made was to think that ‘elevation’ was a
single projection, when in fact it could be any of 360 or so projections (if we
think in degrees).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your
example is a simple one where you have specified a source file that only has a
few maps and sources (one each possibly) and you have selected no maps (so by
default all maps are selected).<br>
I have a cave system with three caves and lots of surface features, and so
except at the bottom of the hierarchy my thconfig will have a source for the
caves, a source for the surface dem and a source for the surface features and
minor caves. Then I will have multiple selects that have all of the
commonly chosen maps that I may create at this level. These may have all
sorts of projections, not necessarily the same for each cave or part cave.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now come
the exports. Those that are exporting to map or atlas only need to choose
the projection and all the ‘map objects’ previously selected will
be included in the output. One export statement can therefore produce a
combination of many maps (with each map having it’s own layer in the pdf –
nice).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So I
think the answer to your question might be… for the simple case, yes you
have to specify the projection three times, but for the more realistic case of a
larger cave, you can select many maps, and filter what you get by using the
export statement without having to get too carried away with
commenting/uncommenting select statements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This
might have confused more than helped. Maybe soon I’ll add my
thconfig template to </span></font><a
href="http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=templates">http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=templates</a><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> and that might help some. I still have no idea if I am
setting out my therion data in a sensible way, but it does seem to work out OK.
I’m still on the lookout for other ways to do it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bruce<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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