It looks like a bug in therion loop closure algorithm. I can have a look at it, if you can send me the dataset.<br><br>Best regards, S.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 November 2010 09:35, Bruce <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dangle@tomo.co.nz">dangle@tomo.co.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">I have a mystery, whereby an overland survey between
two fixed points gives a correct pdf plan output with;</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">loop-closure survex</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">(I know it is ‘correct’ because the
aerial photograph image matches the features surveyed) but if I specify;</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">loop-closure therion</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">then one of the fixed points is about 150m misplaced
in plan and the surveyed features are clearly in the wrong place.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">In both scenarios therion.log reports identical
average loop errors and specific loop error statistics. The error over a
500m loop is about 2.3%, mainly due to a 12m error in elevation (can not trust
those gps readings). The plan error if one of the points has its ‘fixity’
removed is about 4m, and the plots produced are correct regardless of the loop
closure method.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">It is a rather large dataset with many underground loops,
and four fixed surface points. Two of which have overland surveys between
them. Only one of the overland surveys has this problem.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">Using Therion 5.3.5. Can replicate this result
on three computers.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">Any theories as to what might be going on and how to
locate the issue?</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN-NZ">Bruce</span></font></p>
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