[Therion] Mapiah, again

[Eoghan]

> It strikes me as ludicrous that in this day and age, people still go
> with the idea that they have to support a browser make/version instead
> of supporting an engine


Flutter is a Google project, I’m neither shocked nor surprised (only disappointed) that they do this.  Flutter even got forked Flutter devs, see [1][2].  I don’t know how far the two codebases have drifted or if Flock (the fork) even supports other browsers.

[1] https://getflocked.dev/blog/posts/we-are-forking-flutter-this-is-why/
[2] https://github.com/join-the-flock/flock


Eoghan

> On 12 Jun 2025, at 05:50, Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion <therion at speleo.sk> wrote:
> 
>> Flutter web apps are expected to run on a list of browsers available at https://docs.flutter.dev/platform-integration/web/faq#which-web-browsers-are-supported-by-flutter
> 
> 
> I had a feeling this would be their fault not yours.
> 
> Aside;
> 
> It strikes me as ludicrous that in this day and age, people still go
> with the idea that they have to support a browser make/version instead
> of supporting an engine. Unless there is something extremely browser
> centric that they are relying on (such as demanding that the browser
> build behavioural profiles about the user for advertising purposes,
> which should be internationally banned), there is absolutely no reason
> to "support a browser". Just follow a spec. If a browser engine fails to
> follow a spec, detect that difference and code for that in a branch.
> Don't detect one vendor and assume you can predict the future.
> 
> Anyone who makes a project that "supports Chrome" but needlessly sniffs
> and disables itself or does something stupid in other browsers that use
> the same engine, should not be writing code for public consumption. They
> are stuck in the 1990s browser wars, and need to learn how to code
> properly. Vivaldi, Opera, Brave, Edge, and well over 100 other browser
> apps, all use Chromium. They would all work perfectly well with
> something like this, if they were allowed to do so.
> 
> /rant
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