[Therion] Build a map with all centerline and partial walls

Martin Sluka martinsluka at mac.com
Tue Nov 26 17:16:03 CET 2024 

So you should generate another/duplicate scraps with different names only with stations for part of map only with centerline and create map definition with them. 

Martin

Odesláno z iPhonu

> 26. 11. 2024 v 17:02, Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net>:
> 
> Hi Pavel -
> 
> It might - but then I have to keep two copies of the centerline data. Might not be so bad now, but as more is added, I have to make sure both data sets are in sync.
> 
> ===============
> Bill Gee
> 
>> On 11/26/24 09:56, Pavel Herich wrote:
>> This should help a bit:
>> data normal from to tape compass clino ignoreall #ignore all lrud data in centerline
>> 14P  15P  7.91  345  2.5  1.6  0.2  1.5  0.3
>> 15P  16P  5.4  25  -3  0  1.5  1.2  2
>> ...
>> Pavel
>> Dňa 2024-11-26 16:46 Bill Gee napísal(a):
>>> Thank you all for your suggestions and hints.  I have figured out how to make this work - Mostly!
>>> 
>>> Take a look at this map:
>>> 
>>> https://campercaver.net/MiscFiles/CaveSpringCave-All.pdf
>>> 
>>> This is very close to what I want.  The only problem is more of an annoyance.  It appears that adding the centerline as a survey makes Therion process the LRUDs to come up with a pseudo-wall.  I would like that to go away.  I tried adding "hide-symbol line wall" to the layout, but that made all of the walls go away.
>>> 
>>> In the thconfig file I changed the "source" line to the new .th file, added a symbol-hide line for cross-sections and changed the name of the output file on the export line.  I also changed the "select" line to reference MainPlan-All.
>>> 
>>> Here is how I set up the .th file:
>>> 
>>> ========================
>>> map MainPlan-All
>>>   MainPlan
>>>   MainCenterLine
>>> endmap
>>> 
>>> # Create the main map to include all submaps
>>> map MainPlan -title "CaveSpringCave (SHN-017) - Plan View" -projection plan
>>> 
>>> # X and Y upper level
>>> X-Survey at CaveSpringCave
>>> Y-Survey at CaveSpringCave
>>> 
>>> # Main passages
>>> MainPassages at CaveSpringCave
>>> 
>>> # Lower stream passage
>>> A-Entrance at CaveSpringCave
>>> A-Survey at CaveSpringCave
>>> 
>>> # T-Survey - Small side passage off upper trunk
>>> T-Survey at CaveSpringCave
>>> endmap
>>> 
>>> survey MainCenterLine
>>>   centreline
>>> 
>>>   # Define the units that will be used.
>>>   units compass degrees
>>>   units clino degrees
>>>   units length feet
>>>   units depth feet
>>>   units tape feet
>>>   units altitude feet
>>>   units dimensions feet
>>> 
>>> # A separate file contains all of the survey data.  Use multiple files as needed
>>>   input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
>>> 
>>>   endcentreline
>>> endsurvey
>>> 
>>> survey CaveSpringCave -title "Cave Spring Cave"
>>> 
>>>   centreline
>>> 
>>>   # Define the units that will be used.
>>>   units compass degrees
>>>   units clino degrees
>>>   units length feet
>>>   units depth feet
>>>   units tape feet
>>>   units altitude feet
>>>   units dimensions feet
>>> 
>>> # A separate file contains all of the survey data.  Use multiple files as needed
>>>   input CaveSpringCave-Surveydata.txt
>>> 
>>>   endcentreline
>>> 
>>> 
>>> # Lower stream passage A survey
>>> input 20161107/CaveSpringCave-LowerEntrance.th2
>>> input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A3-A7.th2
>>> input 20221013/CaveSpringCave-A7-A17.th2
>>> [much more omitted ...]
>>> 
>>> ==============================
>>> 
>>> ===============
>>> Bill Gee
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/24 09:31, Bill Gee wrote:
>>>> Actually, I would like full detail where it exists and centerline only where it does not.  Martin's hints give me an idea how to get this. It will take a day or two for me to set it up and test.
>>>> 
>>>> I also want maps where only the drawn stuff is shown.  I think what I need to do is leave those parts of *.th2 and thconfig alone, and add new stuff as noted by Martin.
>>>> 
>>>> One additional question regarding the "select" statement location ... I think I need to put it in thconfig just before the layout and export lines that creates the file, like this:
>>>> 
>>>> ======================  thconfig  ============
>>>> select MainPlan
>>>> 
>>>> layout basics
>>>> ...
>>>> endlayout
>>>> 
>>>> (more layout sections)
>>>> 
>>>> export map  -proj plan -layout ChosenLayout -o Outputfile
>>>> 
>>>> (several more "export map" commands to get Loch, Aven, KML etc files)
>>>> 
>>>> select FullMap
>>>> 
>>>> layout FullMapLayout
>>>> ...
>>>> endlayout
>>>> 
>>>> export map -proj plan -layout FullMapLayout -o AnotherOutputFile
>>>> ======================
>>>> 
>>>> Is this about right?
>>>> 
>>>> Another way I might do it is to create entirely new thconfig and *.th2 files just for this map, then use a "system" call in the main thconfig to launch another instance of therion with the alternate thconfig as a command line option.
>>>> 
>>>> ===============
>>>> Bill Gee
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/25/24 08:38, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
>>>>> It means you want only centerline for all the data set and walls for only part of a cave. Correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Define map which will contain only survey data.
>>>>> Define other map, which will contain only sraps or maps from scraps for that part of the cave you want.
>>>>> Define map, which will include both maps defined above.
>>>>> Select this map in thconfig
>>>>> Add to layout:
>>>>> symbol-hide group all
>>>>> symbol-show line wall
>>>>> symbol-show group centerline
>>>>> (or symbol-show line centerline)
>>>>> 
>>>>> It should work
>>>>> 
>>>>> M.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Odesláno z iPhonu
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 25. 11. 2024 v 14:03, Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am looking at this entry in the Wiki:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/ tips#showing_centreline_for_parts_of_a_cave_and_passage_walls_for_others
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My understanding it that this requires making two sets of centerline data, then creating a survey for each set.  One of the data sets is for that part of the cave which has walls/scraps and the other is for the remainder of the cave.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The thconfig file is set up with only one survey/endsurvey section. I think this also would have to change into two sections.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this correct?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The cave I want to do this for has all centerline data in one big file. It would be a huge pain to separate that into two files.  Even more of a pain would be moving the data as sketching is completed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> -- ===============
>>>>>> Bill Gee
>>>>>> 
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