[Therion] Drawing lines with graphic tablet

[Francesco Serafin]

Thank you Csongor, it works. I'll study the guide and learn how to use it.

Best,
Francesco

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:42 PM Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, space + drag does that. Depending on what browser you're using this
> might not work, also if your cursor is in a text field it will block this.
> You can find this on the wiki here:
> https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion/wiki/General%20usage
>
> Csongor
>
> Francesco Serafin <francesco.serafin2 at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2022.
> júl. 14., Cs, 5:35):
>
>> Thank you very much Csongor!
>> Sorry, I didn't notice that option. Yes, the smallest pen setting works
>> wonderfully. All the indentations of the wall can be drawn at that scale.
>>
>> Many thanks for developing this project, it is very nice.
>>
>> I'd like to ask a small question please: can I drag the xvi across the
>> screen without zooming in and out? I tried combinations of Ctrl+drag,
>> Opt+drag but they didn't work. (I am using a Mac).
>>
>> Thank you
>> Best,
>> Francesco
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:21 PM Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I understand correctly, you need the points on the line to be closer
>>> together, resulting in shorter segments. This setting can be adjusted under
>>> "Tool options" in the options panel for the Draw tool. If you find that the
>>> smallest setting (1) is still too large, that would require changes to the
>>> code, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Yes I am the developer of the project, if you encounter any problems I
>>> would be happy to help.
>>>
>>> Csongor
>>>
>>> Francesco Serafin <francesco.serafin2 at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont:
>>> 2022. júl. 14., Cs, 5:04):
>>>
>>>> Hi Csongor,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your suggestion. I didn't think about wtherion. It looks
>>>> impressive and it's a very nice interface, are you developing it?
>>>> From a first look at it, it has the freehand drawing pen that I had in
>>>> mind. After importing an .xvi centerline I tried to draw some walls. The
>>>> Draw tool works with a continuous drag of the pen, that is great. The only
>>>> question I have is this: given the resolution of the survey, it seems that
>>>> the smallest segment drawn by the pen is still larger than the features of
>>>> the wall. An example is the narrow meander that you see here:
>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>> The wall's turns are smaller than the pen's resolution. It may be that
>>>> one can solve this problem by enlarging the xvi output, but I haven't tried
>>>> this yet.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Francesco
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:00 PM Csongor Zih <daemon.onwave at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Francesco,
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't exactly an answer to your question, but have you thought
>>>>> about using wtherion?
>>>>> https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://github.com/daem-on/wtherion>
>>>>> It's an alternative to XTherion and among others it has the feature
>>>>> you described (aka freehand drawing).
>>>>> It's not fully released yet but you might still find it useful. You
>>>>> can also find end-user documentation on the page above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Csongor
>>>>>
>>>>> Francesco Serafin <francesco.serafin2 at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont:
>>>>> 2022. júl. 13., Sze 18:09):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried to draw the cave's walls in therion's map editor using a
>>>>>> graphic tablet to have a finer control over the lines' shape and obtain a
>>>>>> more realistic-looking cave shape.
>>>>>> This method didn't work because therion's map editor uses Bezier
>>>>>> curves to draw lines: when the pen touches the tablet, a new point is
>>>>>> created - but any further movement of the pen will only adjust the curve's
>>>>>> tangent at that point and doesn't extend the line. To create new points one
>>>>>> must lift the pen and press again so the result is again imprecise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if it would it be possible (and easy) to add a new
>>>>>> line type that is more similar to Illustrator's pencil tool? With the
>>>>>> pencil tool one can hand-draw a path by continuously moving the pen on the
>>>>>> tablet (without lifting it). When the pen is lifted, the software
>>>>>> calculates a Bezier curve from the path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francesco
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