[Therion] map-connection does not display if map is both offset and not offset

Bruce Mutton bruce at tomo.co.nz
Mon Nov 16 01:52:51 CET 2020


The more I look at the behaviour the more I think it is either a bug, or at best, unhelpful behaviour.

I have a workaround that minimises the mess, simply by offsetting both scraps, one by 100 mm and the other by the desired offset distance.

 

map FinalMap

Map1 [000.1 000] above # to emulate map drawn in proper location but without disabling display of map-connection symbols

Map2 [050    000] above # to draw the map in offset as well

endmap

 



 

I experimented with using ‘none’ in place of ‘above’, but that made no difference to whether the map-connection symbols are displayed.

 

Bruce

 

 

From: Therion <therion-bounces at speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton
Sent: Monday, 16 November 2020 10:04
To: 'List for Therion users' <therion at speleo.sk>
Subject: [Therion] map-connection does not display if map is both offset and not offset

 

Thanks for the suggestion Marco.

I think what you suggest is what I was already doing, however I decided to try yet another level of hierarchical separation, but it also did not work.

However I think the effect you are pointing me to is what is in-play here https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/mapconnectors?s[]=offset <https://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/mapconnectors?s%5b%5d=offset> 

I’ll tinker with it some more…  For me it is really only a debug process while I am drawing, so it is best if it soes not require special structures to activate and deactivate.

 

Bruce

 

 

From: Therion <therion-bounces at speleo.sk <mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk> > On Behalf Of Marco Corvi
Sent: Monday, 16 November 2020 09:07
To: therion at speleo.sk <mailto:therion at speleo.sk> 
Subject: Re: [Therion] : map-connection does not display if map is both offset and not offset

 

@bruce

 

that was a nice remark.

 

i think that if you put scrap1 in map1 and scrap2 in map2, and then combine in a final map containing

   map1

   map2 […] above/below

   map2

 

and select the final map, then you get scrap1 and scrap2 in place,

and also scrap2 offseted and the map-connection line

 

marco

 


I just discovered some behaviour that I did not expect.

When a scrap has a point map-connection, any exports of that scrap have a
dotted line from the 'true' location of the point map-location to the
'offset' location.  Right?

These two examples show what is expected.  The first with a single copy of
an offset map, and the second with two offset copies of the map.

However, if there is also a copy of the map that is not offset, then all of
the map-connection points are hidden.  I tried using the -visibility on
option for the point map-connection, that that had no effect.

The image below shows an example of this behaviour.



Although it is not very often that I want to show a map both in its proper
location and offset, it seems to me that one should be able to do it and
also have the map-connection points display properly for the offset maps.

Is this a bug perhaps?



Bruce

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