[Therion] Gradient out of range - does not process
Andrew Atkinson
andrew at wotcc.org.uk
Mon Dec 14 20:57:23 CET 2020
Thanks, will do as soon as I can.
Wasn't expecting ting such s fast response so converted the data, which, it turns out is not simple
Andrew
On 14 December 2020 18:09:30 GMT, Stacho Mudrak <lists at group-s.sk> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>could you please try the latest commit? I do not think that even a
>warning
>for 270 (=-90) to 360 (=level) degrees clino is necessary. An error can
>occur if you manually type a comma in the wrong place, but the same may
>happen with compass & tape and there is no warning.
>
>S.
>
>On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 09:43, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> We have now used 3 different 'Total stations' all by different
>> manufacturers
>>
>> All seem to give a choice between
>>
>> 270 as down 0 as level and 90 as up
>>
>> or
>>
>> 0 as down 90 as level and 180 as up
>>
>> None of them have given the choice for negative clino (all the
>machines
>> we have use are old, but digital.
>>
>> So it does seem normal for theodolites!
>>
>> With hindsight I should have chosen the latter,then I could have just
>> calibrated with a calibrate clino 90
>>
>> But it was difficult to get your head round, plus I was using
>pockettopo
>> (and sexytopo) to draw the survey in the cave, so it was easier to
>use
>> the 270 as down version
>>
>> It would be really useful to be able in a centreline-endcentreline
>nest
>> to be able to suppress the out of range error and use the 270 to 360
>> readings, but still have the error/warning for the more normal
>surveys
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 14/12/2020 08:24, Martin Sluka via Therion wrote:
>> > Are you sure those data are “normal”?
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > Odesláno z iPhonu
>> >
>> > 14. 12. 2020 v 1:10, alastair gott <alastairgott at hotmail.com>:
>> >
>> >> Hi Andrew, if you can get deg,mins,secs to work in survex then you
>can
>> use the .3d file with the surveys use command. (But I think from your
>> careful wording, you already know this).
>> >>
>> >> import use.3d -surveys use
>> >>
>> >> Not ideal afaik for “mixing local and global coordinates” so
>tricky if
>> your going for a kml output if you have to use with mixed .3d and
>normal
>> .th files.
>> >>
>> >> It would be good if you could select a lookup file for the Clino,
>then
>> you could easily create a translation file in excel and save that as
>a .th
>> for your total station .th file to lookup to. But no idea if this is
>> feasible or even an idea at all.
>> >>
>> >> Al.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On 13 Dec 2020, at 18:15, Andrew Atkinson <andrew at wotcc.org.uk>
>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought that there was a way I could stop the out of range
>error, but
>> >>> I cannot now find it. It would be an a useful command to have as
>> instead
>> >>> of negative readings we got readings between 270 and 359, which
>> although
>> >>> strange is valid. In survex readings over 90 are just a warning,
>which
>> >>> seems far more sensible, the problem is that I don't think that I
>can
>> >>> enter the data in survex either without conversion as I don't
>think
>> that
>> >>> degrees minutes and seconds can be entered.
>> >>>
>> >>> So I'm stuck with data that I have to convert, for different
>reasons
>> >>> depending on whether I use survex of therion.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here is part of the file, I have quiet a few
>> >>>
>> >>> survey
>> >>>
>> >>> centreline
>> >>> data normal from to clino compass tape ignoreall
>> >>> 1 2 1:08:25 83:37:40 17.88
>> >>> 2 3 00:00:00 -:-:- 0.055
>> >>> 3 - 02:39:00 266:49:00 3.206
>> >>> 3 - 314:28:20 299:57:45 2.02
>> >>> 3 - 16:32:25 312:13:20 1.246
>> >>> 3 - 06:22:35 84:16:10 1.17
>> >>> 3 - 309:16:45 84:15:50 1.846
>> >>> 3 - 55:00:10 122:44:50 0.77
>> >>> 3 - 325:02:55 249:55:45 1.014
>> >>> 3 5 359:30:50 338:07:25 16.674
>> >>> 5 - 306:52:00 262:23:20 1.402
>> >>> 5 - 59:29:30 343:51:30 1.076
>> >>> 5 - 305:08:25 358:34:30 1.274
>> >>> 5 - 315:26:20 90:51:35 1.632
>> >>> 5 - 29:12:45 77:01:35 1.891
>> >>> 5 - 19:55:50 33:02:00 3.071
>> >>> 5 - 348:22:35 31:08:25 3.707
>> >>> 5 - 350:35:20 15:31:25 4.292
>> >>> 5 - 13:29:35 15:31:20 4.202
>> >>> 5 - 12:24:50 30:20:20 7.919
>> >>> 5 6 17:29:05 31:28:50 6.444
>> >>> 6 - 307:24:35 149:47:35 1.738
>> >>> 6 - 344:44:40 149:45:30 1.426
>> >>> 6 - 77:05:35 149:36:05 1.523
>> >>> 6 - 306:05:00 314:12:10 0.84
>> >>> 6 - 353:47:50 94:54:35 2.091
>> >>> 6 - 00:42:00 219:31:40 5.446
>> >>> 6 - 18:33:50 230:03:05 4.468
>> >>> 6 7 12:26:05 241:13:00 4.272
>> >>>
>> >>> .....etc
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone got a solution that does not mean I have to convert in a
>> spreadsheet?
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Andrew
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