[Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey

Roger Schuster roger at r-schuster.de
Wed Apr 15 19:42:40 CEST 2020


Hi cavers,

I did some more experiments with this and another cave survey. In the 
other cave the following commands do work as expected: symbol-hide point 
station, symbol-hide line survey and symbol-hide group cave-centerline. 
symbol-hide line centerline does *not *work (unknown symbol 
specification). Spelling centerline vs. centreline does not matter. On 
the generated map output of this cave there are no strange artifacts. 
Only my drawing and the morphed sketches.

With the current survey we are talking about only symbol-hide point  
station works; all other commands resulting in various errors which I 
have posted already.

Regards,

Roger

Am 14.04.2020 um 21:51 schrieb Bruce Mutton:
>
> Or symbol-hide group cave-centreline
>
> *From:*Bruce Mutton <bruce at tomo.co.nz>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:44
> *To:* 'List for Therion users' <therion at speleo.sk>
> *Subject:* RE: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey
>
> Try this spelling - centreline
>
> *From:*Therion <therion-bounces at speleo.sk 
> <mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk>> *On Behalf Of *Roger Schuster
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 April 2020 07:37
> *To:* List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk 
> <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey
>
> Hi,
>
> this results in the following error:
>
> symbol-hide line centerline: error -- thconfig [12] -- thconfig [12] 
> -- unknown symbol specification -- line centerline
>
> Roger
>
> ------ Originalnachricht ------
>
> Von: "Xavier Robert" <xavier.robert at univ-grenoble-alpes.fr 
> <mailto:xavier.robert at univ-grenoble-alpes.fr>>
>
> An: "List for Therion users" <therion at speleo.sk 
> <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
> Gesendet: 14.04.2020 20:45:38
>
> Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I may be wrong, but it looks like if you plot the centerline ?
>
>     In your thconfig, if you add "symbol-hide line centerline", does
>     it solve your problem ?
>
>     Cheers,
>
>
>     Xavier
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *De: *"Roger Schuster" <roger at r-schuster.de
>     <mailto:roger at r-schuster.de>>
>     *À: *"List for Therion users" <therion at speleo.sk
>     <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>     *Envoyé: *Mardi 14 Avril 2020 13:31:25
>     *Objet: *Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey
>
>     Hi cavers,
>
>     symbol-hide doesn't change anything. Here is a screen shot of the
>     white, trapezoid "artifact":
>
>     As said I marked two stations (-visibility off) at opposite ends
>     of the cave on the map getting this white "things". When I use
>     color map-fg the trapezoid is filled in the given foreground
>     color. I use Therion 5.4.4 btw.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Roger
>
>     ------ Originalnachricht ------
>
>     Von: "Torsten Schnitter via Therion" <therion at speleo.sk
>     <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
>     An: "List for Therion users" <therion at speleo.sk
>     <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
>     Cc: "Torsten Schnitter" <torsten.schnitter at netcologne.de
>     <mailto:torsten.schnitter at netcologne.de>>
>
>     Gesendet: 14.04.2020 08:50:24
>
>     Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy survey
>
>         Hi Roger
>
>         I'm not sure about your problem with the "artifacts" but try
>         "symbol-hide point station" in your layout definition for the map.
>         (maybe also "symbol-hide line survey")
>
>         Just a guess...
>
>         cheers,
>         Torsten
>
>             Roger Schuster <roger at r-schuster.de
>             <mailto:roger at r-schuster.de>> hat am 13. April 2020 um
>             19:00 geschrieben:
>
>             Hello again,
>
>             finally I got it working and if I compare the output of
>             Therion with the original map on paper there is only a
>             tiny bit of distortion. Both maps match quite nicely.
>             There are just two things I don't understand:
>
>             There is a white, trapezoid gap on the map which isn't on
>             the background image (of course). I guess it has something
>             to do with the morphing - is there a way to get rid of
>             this artifact?
>
>             I also noticed that length and depth statistics in the map
>             header (registers \cavelength and \cavedepth) are wrong
>             while in the log file it's right. The values in the
>             registers obviously depend on which stations / surveys are
>             marked and to get the same values as in the log at least
>             one station of each survey has to be marked (unfortunately
>             each mark results in a more or less ugly white trapezoid
>             as mentioned above). This is the reason why I decided to
>             override the registers in code tex-map.
>
>             Unfortunately I can't post the map here because of
>             copyright reasons.
>
>             Best regards,
>
>             Roger
>
>             ------ Originalnachricht ------
>
>             Von: "עמרי גסטר" < omrigas at gmail.com
>             <mailto:omrigas at gmail.com>>
>
>             An: "List for Therion users" < therion at speleo.sk
>             <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
>             Gesendet: 13.04.2020 14:06:17
>
>             Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work / legacy
>             survey
>
>                 You can use the debug function to see how bad is the
>                 distortion and change the position of the station
>                 accordingly until you are happy with the result.
>
>                 On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 2:52 PM Roger Schuster <
>                 roger at r-schuster.de <mailto:roger at r-schuster.de>> wrote:
>
>                     Hello all,
>
>                     thank you for your answers. Projection none
>                     doesn't work - all survey lines will appear on the
>                     pdf but not the scanned map. So I tried projection
>                     plan again and marked a second station and this
>                     did the trick. The background is now on the output
>                     as I expected. One problem I need to solve: The
>                     stations aren't marked on the map so I've to guess
>                     where they are... My estimation shouldn't be too
>                     far off to prevent unwanted distortions of the map.
>
>                     Thanks again for your support!
>
>                     Roger
>
>                     ------ Originalnachricht ------
>
>                     Von: "Martin Sluka via Therion" <
>                     therion at speleo.sk <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
>                     An: "List for Therion users" < therion at speleo.sk
>                     <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>>
>
>                     Cc: "Martin Sluka" < martinsluka at mac.com
>                     <mailto:martinsluka at mac.com>>
>
>                     Gesendet: 13.04.2020 12:28:40
>
>                     Betreff: Re: [Therion] Sketches on doesn't work /
>                     legacy survey
>
>                             13. 4. 2020 v 11:20, Roger Schuster <
>                             roger at r-schuster.de
>                             <mailto:roger at r-schuster.de>>:
>
>                             After that I created a scrap with the
>                             scanned map (projection plan) and scaled
>                             it using the scale bar and the scaling
>                             tool of Xtherion map editor.
>
>                         I’m afraid it will work only for "projection
>                         none" as for sections.
>
>                         For plan you should use minimally two stations
>                         because Therion georeferences each scrap
>                         according those stations.
>
>                         Martin
>
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