[Therion] Nautiz X8

Mon Nov 5 08:10:23 CET 2018

Hi Bruce,
as you write, it´s enough to wipe it barehanded, very fast once or two 
times and screen works again, not necessary to dry or clean it 
perfectly. I have been using the device in many slovak caves, and I 
haven´t found any place, where would be impossible to draw a sketch, 
just sometimes I had to protect the screen with whole body like a 
serpent twists around the branch. I just wonder how it would be in some 
really rainy cave.
Hope I have answered your questions, good luck
Pavel

Dňa 2018-11-04 23:35 Bruce Mutton via Therion napísal(a):
> Hi Pavel
> 
> It might be difficult for me to get device to test before buying, so I
> just want to clarify the significance of this issue that you
> mentioned...
> 
> "it´s necessary to protect screen from drops of water, even small
> ones are registered and making some effect on screen".
> 
> You are using it a lot, as you mention, and I assume that you are
> using the device underground.  Therefore I assume that from time to
> time water droplets, wet mud and sand on the display are inevitable.
> It happens for me all the time, and I wipe with my hand, lick the
> display clean (yuk), or wash it in a stream or from my water bottle.
> 
> 	* Does this scenario make the X8 unusable for drawing and typing, or
> just mildly annoying?
> 	* What about wiping it with a cloth after washing it.  Does that fix
> it?
> 
> (I have a non-caving device, that once wet, needs to be removed from
> the humid environment completely before the display will respond
> correctly - drying with a non-absorbent cloth is not sufficient - I
> want to make sure the X8 is not like this).
> 
> Regards
> 
> Bruce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Therion <therion-bounces at speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Bruce Mutton
> via Therion
> Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:02
> To: 'List for Therion users' <therion at speleo.sk>
> Cc: Bruce Mutton <bruce at tomo.co.nz>
> Subject: [Therion] Nautiz X8
> 
> Thanks for the insights Pavel.
> 
> I can see those side buttons are in exactly the wrong place.
> 
> I too would be after the Windows version, I understand the Windows
> ones can run Android, but not vice versa.
> 
> So before proceeding I will check PocketTopo speed, stylus and water
> response.  All our caves are such that devices are constantly wet and
> muddy while surveying. That the Nautiz display responds badly to water
> surprizes me, as our Trimble Recons have never responded to water
> (except once when swimming), and that assumption is the reason I am
> looking at them.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Bruce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: Therion <therion-bounces at speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Pavel Herich
> via Therion
> 
> Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:18
> 
> To: List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk>
> 
> Cc: Pavel Herich <herich at speleodd.sk>
> 
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Nautiz X8
> 
> Hello,
> 
> i´m using it for more than two years now, 3 to 15 times per month. My
> device is built on windows, so there is PocketTopo installed. For me
> it works great, strong battery, quite big screen, I use to clean it
> just directly under the flowing water. But on the other hand,
> surprisingly PocketTopo turned out to run significantly slower than on
> the previous, old and cheap PDA (means menu reactions, context menu
> calling and so; it doesn´t affect bleutooth connection or any other
> core functionalities - anyway it could be just some settings error).
> Then, I had to replace stylus, which was very wide and not draw
> friendly, instead I use thin stylus from old PDA (metal core), which
> doesn´t works perfectly, but it´s much better to work with. As well,
> the screen is not so precise for drawing than on my old PDA, partly
> perhaps because of bigger screen, but I think the technology has been
> changed (you can use only plastic, thin protection of the screen to be
> able to use old and precise stylus).
> 
> Also, the two buttons (arrows) on the left side of the device I found
> very annoying - there are right there, where one would hold the
> device, they manage volume, which is very necessary to work with
> inside the cave...; I will try to seal them once. And last thing,
> it´s necessary to protect screen from drops of water, even small ones
> are registered and making some effect on screen.
> 
> So that´s all troubles I noticed, otherwise you can count with this
> device anywhere.
> 
> But to use it just to draw a raw sketch in PocketTopo or Topodroid,
> it´s bit expensive (f.e. DigiTerra explorer - basic GIS software can
> be instaled).
> 
> Pavel
> 
> Dňa 2018-10-31 19:06 Bruce Mutton via Therion napísal(a):
> 
>> Good Morning.
> 
>> Does anyone have experience with these?
> 
>> Nautiz X8
> 
>> 
> 
>> 
> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-computer/handheld-pda/nautiz-x8/#tab=tecspec[1]
> 
> 
>> 
> 
> http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_handhelds_handheldus_nautiz_x8.html [2]
> 
>> 
> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-solutions/Customer-Solutions/nautiz-x8-extreme-environment-surveying-with-rugged-handhelds
> 
> 
>> 
> 
>> Bruce
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