[Therion] CaveView a 3D web viewer

Fri Jul 28 13:36:20 CEST 2017

Hi Henry -

Yep, that did the trick.  Thanks!

Bill Gee

On Friday, July 28, 2017 2:28:56 AM CDT Henry.Bennett at dell.com wrote:
> I believe the menu bar is linked to the existence of the file
> /build/terrain/tileSets.json.  I grabbed a copy from the Full UI demo

> https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/terrain//tileSets.json
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> Henry
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> From: Therion [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Bill Gee via
> Therion
 Sent: 28 July 2017 03:04
> To: therion at speleo.sk
> Cc: Bill Gee <bgee at campercaver.net>; Xavier Robert via Therion
> <therion at speleo.sk>
 Subject: Re: [Therion] CaveView a 3D web viewer
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> Hi Xavier -
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> I think I got it ... I downloaded the new ZIP file and exploded to my
> server, replacing all of the existing CaveView subdirectory. Note that this
> file does NOT contain the entire application.

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> On initial start it gave the same error as you were getting. I am using
> Firefox running in Fedora 26.

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> I modified the index.html file in the first line of the onload() function.
> The directory names in that line have slash characters both before and
> after. I removed the leading slash characters and now it works! The revised
> line looks like this:

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> CV.UI.init( "scene", { terrainDirectory: "terrain/", surveyDirectory:
> "surveys/", home: "CaveView/"

> The leading slash characters were forcing absolute paths instead of relative
> paths.

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> There is still a problem. I don't get the full user interface. I get a
> rendered cave map which I can rotate, spin and zoom. But there is no menu
> bar on the left side.

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> We're getting closer, but still some work to be done.
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> Bill Gee
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> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:08:18 PM CDT Xavier Robert via Therion wrote:
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> > Hi all,
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> > I have work on that a bit more on that.
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> > 1) The developper has updated the code. See
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> > https://github.com/aardgoose/CaveView.js/issues/4 and
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> > https://github.com/aardgoose/CaveView.js/tree/master/build
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> > 2) I downloaded the missing files and the updates. I still have the same
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> > problem in my browser (Safari 10.1.2) : « failed loading cave information
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> > » In the debugger, I have the error : « XMLHttpRequest cannot load file
> > […]
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> > Cross origin request are only supported for https » A quick googling
> > points
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> > that this is because I am working with Safari in local… I moved to
> > Firefox,
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> > and that’s working. —> For mac Users, do not use Safari to test with
> > local
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> > files !
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> > Cheers,
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> > Xavier
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> > > Le 27 juil. 2017 à 15:43, Владимир Георгиев via Therion
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> > > <therion at speleo.sk<mailto:therion at speleo.sk>> a écrit :
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> > > Hi
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> > > The CaveView project is really nice, and one of the especially good
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> > > is that it is actively developed :) I have used it on our club's server
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> > > to test and show the models of some recent surveys.
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> > > It is very useful for uploading the models of the caves and
> > > demonstrating
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> > > them without the need to have Survex, Therion or another tool
> > > installed,
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> > > because it runs in any browser without the need for plugins. CaveView
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> > > also has some nice features like highlighting a specific height level,
> > > by
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> > > specific survey section, etc. When working with maps or demonstrating
> > > on
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> > > my own PC I still use Loch or Aven because I am used to them and they
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> > > don't require setting up JS files, copying of the generated LOX or 3D,
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> > > etc.
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> > > Tomorrow when I have more time I will write some instructions on how to
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> > > 'install' it. If someone hasn't figured it out by then :)
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> > > Vladimir
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> > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Xavier Robert via Therion
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> > > <therion at speleo.sk
> > > <mailto:therion at speleo.sk<mailto:therion at speleo.sk%20%3cmailto:therion@
> > > speleo.sk>>> wrote: Hi !
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> > > I am also interested to be able to get a 3D view on line of the caves
> > > we
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> > > explored with my caving club.The demo is great. I thus have a look on
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> > > project. Here are my comments if they can be useful for someone :
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> > > 1) That is true, we need a « CaveView.js », and this is not CV.js. This
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> > > file should be in the folder « js ». This folder needs to be in the
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> > > folder CaveView : build/
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> > > /—> index.thm
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> > > /—> CaveView
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> / /—> js
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> > > / / /—>CaveView.js
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> > > / /—> lib
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> > > /—> surveys
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> > > /—> terrain
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> > > 2) As you, I got the problem of the missing file. I went to the
> > > fulldemo
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> > > website (https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/fulldemo.html
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> > > <https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/fulldemo.html>), and I open
> > > the
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> > > development plugin from Safari. I add a snapshot in attachment that
> > > show
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> > > the different scripts used by the website.
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> > > 3) From that website, I downloaded the CaveView.js missing file, and I
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> > > copy it on my computer under CaveView.js/build/js/
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> > > 4) I added my lox/3d files in my folder surveys and modified the
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> > > index.html to point to the 3d models I added, following the help file
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> > > (https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/installation.html
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> > > <https://aardgoose.github.io/CaveView.js/installation.html>).
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> > > 5) I try to open index.htm with my browser, with all the files on my
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> > > computer. I systematically get the error « failed loading cave
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> > > information », and then, I only have the bottom lines of the web page
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> > > (infos on the mouse gestures). I imagine that Bill, you get the same
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> > > error.>
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> > > - I get that error both for .lox and .3d input files.
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> > > - If I voluntary give a false path to the cave file, and I get the same
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> > > error. This error is probably due to the fact that the CaveView.js do
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> > > not find the cave input file. - I then tried both, the full path
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> > > (/Users/…/CaveView.js/build/), and also the relative path (everything
> > > is
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> > > inside CaveView.js/build/). I still get the same error…>
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> > > I am really far to be a web/javascript guru, and for the moment I did
> > > not
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> > > succeed to get a working webpage…
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> > > If needed, I can provide my whole folder !
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> > > Cheers,
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> > > Xavier
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> > >> Le 27 juil. 2017 à 13:38, Bill Gee via Therion <therion at speleo.sk
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> > >> <mailto:therion at speleo.sk>> a écrit :
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> > >> Hi Wookey
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> > >> Two comments ...
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> > >> First, you are right. There is a file called CV.js. However, it has
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> > >> only six lines. There is one "import" and five "export" statements.
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> > >> Somehow I doubt that it is really CaveView.js.
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> > >> Second, the sample index.html file specifically calls out for
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> > >> CaveView.js. I looked at the page source for the online "full UI" demo
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> > >> and see that it also calls for CaveView.js.
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> > >> I modified the sample index.html file to use the name of one of my
> > >> .lox
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> > >> files. It loads without error in Firefox, but does not display any
> > >> sort
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> > >> of window or menu. All it shows is the line across the bottom telling
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> > >> what the mouse gestures do.
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> > >> Does anyone know the author of this program? Maybe they have some
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> > >> additional suggestions.
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> > >> Bill Gee
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> > >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:21:42 AM CDT Wookey via Therion wrote:
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> > >> > On 2017-07-27 08:40 -0500, Bill Gee via Therion wrote:
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> > >> > > CaveView requires installation to a running Web server and manual
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> > >> > > editing of HTML files. It is not a stand-alone application.
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> > >> > But it could be packaged as one, available to run on your local
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> > >> > webserver. Not sure how useful that is in practice.
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> > >> > > Second, the archive files I looked at seem to be incomplete. I
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> > >> > > downloaded
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> > >> > > the source code but could not find any file called CaveView.js.
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> > >> > > I also tried cloning the git repository with this command:
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> > >> > > git clone https://github.com/aardgoose/CaveView.js.git
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> > >> > > <https://github.com/aardgoose/CaveView.js.git>>> > >
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> > >> > > Good grief, it downloaded over 260 megabytes! Even that did not
> > >> > > have
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> > >> > > a
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> > >> > > CaveView.js file.
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> > >> > Heh, hooray for 'the modern way'? There is a CV.js which I presume
> > >> > is
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> > >> > the top-level file. (and there are two worker threads which need to
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> > >> > run too). CaveView.js is the application name - there isn't actually
> > >> > a
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> > >> > file called that, just a directory.
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> > >> > This does look nice and shiny. I'll take at look at what's involved
> > >> > in
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> > >> > packaging it for use as a local app then people don't need to worry
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> > >> > about all those setup instructions. I've not fiddled with any node
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> > >> > stuff before, but expect it to be somewhat painful, from what I've
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> > >> > heard
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> > >> > about the node ecosystem :-)
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> > >> > Looks like it needs the following:
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> > >> > rollup, which is currently in experimental.
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> > >> > three.js (already in since stable) (however it wants r85 and debian
> > >> > has
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> > >> > 73
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> > >> > or 80 - this may or may not actually matter) proj4js (already in
> > >> > since
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> > >> > stable)
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> > >> > So none of that looks too bad, although the rollup piece could be a
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> > >> > pain in
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> > >> > practice.
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> > >> > Wookey
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