[Therion] Scrap limits
Benedikt Hallinger
beni at hallinger.org
Sun Dec 3 09:41:05 CET 2017
Thank, how could i switch this?
I also wrote a small testcase that segfaulted at about 3000 scraps.
Am 2017-12-02 9:55, schrieb Martin Budaj via Therion:
> Hi,
>
> there is no change regarding the limits in Therion. If there is a real
> need, following could be done:
>
> - in the current version of MetaPost, it's possible to used "double"
> arithmetic just by specifying a command line option, which practically
> eliminates MetaPost limits
>
> - instead of pdfTeX we could use LuaTeX to produce the PDFs. This
> doubles the number of registers available from 32768 to 65536.
> Registers are needed to reference the fragments of all
> scraps/sections; you usually need up to 6 of them for a scrap. So you
> would get maybe 12000 instead of 6000 scraps in one output file. It
> would require some substantial work to support LuaTeX (there is e.g.
> completely different font handling compared to PdfTeX).
>
> And yes, the limit applies just to the data selected for export.
>
> Martin
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Benedikt Hallinger via Therion
> <therion at speleo.sk> wrote:
>> Maybe another question:
>> Assume a large cave with thousands of scraps.
>> When i make a thconfig file sourcing all that data, but using "select"
>> statements i only select partial data,
>> does the metapost limit apply to the whole dataset or just the scraps
>> covered by the select command?
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 2017-11-28 22:19, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger via Therion:
>>>
>>> Hello Martin,
>>> is the blow limit of 4096 scraps still valid in the current version?
>>> Or is it already fixed so we can use more scraps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Carl Magnuson <magnu213 at umn.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the solution is to issue the following metapost command:
>>>>> warningcheck := 0;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed. The new limit will be 32768 and could not be increased further
>>>> in Metapost itself.
>>>>
>>>> The solution would be modification of how therion manages metapost
>>>> pictures (currently they are stored in files data.1 to data.4000, with
>>>> files data.4001 to data.4095 reserved for pattern definitions). This
>>>> numbering scheme could be modified to allow more file name prefixes
>>>> and consequently theoretically unlimited number of scraps processed by
>>>> metapost.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand there is still pdfTeX limit which would not allow
>>>> much more scraps. PdfTeX uses internal registers for scraps
>>>> referencing (scrap data is included only once in pdf file and can be
>>>> referenced on multiple pages). You could avoid pdftex limit by using
>>>> SVG output (if SVG viewers would process large number of internal
>>>> references).
>>>>
>>>> In the longer-term future (a few years) I would like to use metapost
>>>> as a library instead of external metapost executable, which would
>>>> solve the problems with temporary files (and other problems as well).
>>>>
>>>>> However adding it in a
>>>>> code metapost
>>>>> warningcheck := 0;
>>>>> endcode
>>>>> block seems to have no effect, mpost still fails on more then 4096
>>>>> scraps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Therion currently inserts warningcheck:=1; before scraps without good
>>>> reason, so it will be fixed soon.
>>>>
>>>> If the new warningcheck setting would work for you, I would prefer not
>>>> to modify current file numbering scheme for metapost pictures and have
>>>> it fixed later with implementation of metapost library.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
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